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The 25 Days Of Barber Coins!!

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 Posted 12/02/2013  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HA! I do not usually grade higher than a TPG. Usually lower. The seven letters of Liberty are not only there but they are pretty sharp. The band under Liberty is the dividing line between VF and XF.
Is that an older holder?
There are VF Barber halves that do not look as good so I think you get 10 out of 10
(as the Brits say) for choosing this one.
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 Posted 12/02/2013  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elbesaar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Hondo - Nice coin to start your set with.

I agree with ANACS on this - my immediate
reaction was 20 - but after looking at it
again - I think ANACS got it correct.

Not enough wreath detail on the OBV to warrant
a VF 30. JMHO
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 Posted 12/02/2013  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So let me ask the experts.

Educate me on the specifics you se to grade the half dollar series.

Liberty
Band below liberty (vf vs xf)
Wreath detail

What else? I know the wing tips on the reverse is important...

Just seeing if maybe someone has a secret grading technique that isn't exactly par for the course.
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 Posted 12/03/2013  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is Hondo's half:
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These pictures may be of help:
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As a specialist (NOT an expert) of the Barber series
my eyes dart immediately to this area. Occasionally I am interrupted by some surface problem but I start here.

The letters and the upper and lower bands may be studied
and compared to get a feel for what to look for.

As to the wreath, I have observed the detail is often lacking towards the bottom. I'll await someone's analysis of the reason.

There is no secret to grading, just access to as many different sources of information and examination of coins in hand.

I neither agree nor disagree with the author's grading
but I offer his opinion as yet another tool.
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 Posted 12/03/2013  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks!
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Thanks MatthewVincent for posting the LIBERTY bands
...that's a great help for the beginning collector of
this series. The band is not the only place to grade a Barber Half.

The wreath is another place to gauge the grade.
I try and get an immediate gut feeling about the grade
as soon as I look at a coin. The Pro's have seconds to
grade - seems like an impossibility - but you'd surprise
yourself when the chips are down.

The only way to grade is to look at hundreds, no, Thousands of coins - keep studying - no one was a grader overnight.

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 Posted 12/03/2013  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elbesaar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

A friend has been eyeing my 1909-O Dime for some time - I picked this up in an ICG 58 Holder - brought it to the ANA Summer Seminars and the teams from NGC and PCGS both said the coin would cross.

I crossed it to PCGS

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Its not that flashy for a 58 - its just a nice little coin.

Here is its replacement...

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 Posted 12/07/2013  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elbesaar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Last January at FUN, a friend had a large group of AU Barber halves he had bought raw and was looking to sell them for a bit of a profit.

I spotted a nice 1905-O in what appeared to be AU 53
and although I thought the OBV was a bit distracting - I thought the coin might get into a numbered holder at PCGS.

I thought wrong - but this date is so hard to find above VG that I knew I had to own it.

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 Posted 12/13/2013  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elbesaar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Newp for the Quarter Collection...

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 Posted 12/13/2013  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have really enjoyed your contributions Elbesaar. I am searching for three quality pieces for my type album. The examples you have displayed put my worn coins to shame.
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 Posted 12/13/2013  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Again and again, I am blown away by your impeccable collection Elbesaar!


I could gaze upon your beauties for hours!
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Oh wow, those a beautiful. On the 1905-O half, where is the tooling? I cannot seem to identify it in the images.
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I wondered the same thing. I bought the coin raw
and was hoping it would grade, as it's a lot nicer
than my PCGS 40.

I thought it was a 53 all day long.
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 Posted 12/20/2013  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elbesaar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Picking this coin up at FUN from a friend who's selling off
his Barber quarter collection. I bought four of his beauties
last month, and here is the last coin from his set that caught
my eye ( that hadn't been promised to other collectors )

1912-S PCGS 55
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