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 Posted 10/30/2012  5:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
For a reason I can not explain, I have always enjoyed coins with a technical oddity. Since many people consider such things defective, these can be cheaper than 'regular' coins. Probably the most common variety in this category is the clashed die. These result when a reverse die is hammered into an obverse die without a coin blank in place. Making coins at a fast pace probably caused an occasional flan to slip out of place after the hammerman had begun his swing. Some of these are more sever than others. My latest is a denarius of Septimius Severus from the Rome mint with Marti Pacifero reverse. The clash caused the right side of the reverse die to be impressed with the right side of the obverse in mirror image. the inverted portrait front is clear as is the reversed legend AVGIMP which appears darker than the surrounding silver. There was a bounce of the strike causing a second area of weaker damage just outside the more clear one. Unfortunately this second hit falls on top of the raised reverse legend but you can still see ERO at the lower right of the reverse.

This is neither my first or best die clash but it is the latest. Anyone interested may look at my page:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/do...h/brock.html
which includes another Septimius with color coded legends that might make the matter more clear.


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 Posted 10/30/2012  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doug, that very cool coin! Thanks for sharing it and all of great information about it!



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 Posted 10/30/2012  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't come across any die clash coins but find them interesting and would love to own some.
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 Posted 10/30/2012  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
=> very cool looking coin, dougsmit!! (oh, and great article)

... man, there must have been quite a few error coins back in the day, eh?


There seem to be very few in modern times ...

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 Posted 10/30/2012  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting coin doug! Thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 10/30/2012  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


It looks like you could just collect these error coins as a hobby. I would think there would be more as fast as these guys had to work..or maybe they would cut off fingers, if they made to many mistakes..
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 Posted 10/31/2012  03:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eddop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my collection this Numerian PRINCIPI IVVENTVT from Rome,
The obverse as well the reverse are overstrucked.

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 Posted 10/31/2012  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We call that a flipover double strike because the second obverse was on the first reverse but the dies were the same for both strikes so we assume they were done close together. We really can't prove whether the flan flipped over or whether the coin fell into the blank flan bucket and got used again at that same time. We also see coins where the second strike used different dies and these 'overstrikes' can be years apart from each other.

You could collect nothing but errors and you might be surprised at how few people will compete with you for all but the wildest ones. There is a website for US clashed die coins but only a few of their coins are really strong. Modern error collectors accept very minor errors compared to ancients.
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