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1971-S $1 Ike Eisenhower - DDO

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 Posted 11/01/2012  09:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TheCentMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Decided to take images of all my silver coins and found this in there. I'm almost positive this is a DDO, not sure about the reverse though. No clue which DDO # this is, so if anyone can help identifying it, that'd help a ton. On the Obverse, LIBERTY, 1971, IN GOD WE TRUST, Ike's Nose, the Mint Mark (S), and the FG are all doubled. The reverse I'm not so sure about. I see some lines in the craters that I can't find on any other Ike's one of them sort of looks like an A or maybe an upside down V. The 2nd "L" also has some weird marks, but might just be hits? Also, there's something about the wings and feathers that look off to me. In places the "gaps" between feathers appear to bulge outward instead of being indented inward like other coins.

1971-S-$1-Ike-Eisenhower---DDO

1971-S-$1-Ike-Eisenhower---DDO

1971-S-$1-Ike-Eisenhower---DDO

1971-S-$1-Ike-Eisenhower---DDO

1971-S-$1-Ike-Eisenhower---DDO

1971-S-$1-Ike-Eisenhower---DDO

1971-S-$1-Ike-Eisenhower---DDO

1971-S-$1-Ike-Eisenhower---DDO

1971-S-$1-Ike-Eisenhower---DDO

1971-S-$1-Ike-Eisenhower---DDO

1971-S-$1-Ike-Eisenhower---DDO
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 Posted 11/01/2012  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears to me to be a little bit of die wobble as I call it :)
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I hope its ok but it was such a good read, I have to share this from Coin World:

Machine, mechanical or Strike Doubling: Machine Doubling is often mistaken by nonspecialists as die doubling although the two forms of errors are unrelated. Machine Doubling occurs at the end of the strike and is usually attributed to a loose die or a vibrating die assembly, although other proposed explanations may have validity, notes researcher Diamond. Specialists recognize two forms of machine doublingâ€""push doubling" and "slide doubling."

Diamond describes the appearances and causes of the two forms: "Push doubling leaves flat, marginal shelving along the edge of the design and rounded doubling on interior design elements. Push doubling develops when the die (hammer or anvil) bounces up after impact, shifts slightly to one side and lands lightly on the newly-struck design.

"Slide doubling smears the design. It occurs when a die shifts laterally without a bounce and, as a consequence, drags itself through the newly-struck details."

While many specialists find Machine Doubling uninteresting, some very interesting and collectible pieces have been found. Collectors should be wary of paying a premium for routine examples of machine-doubled coins, although the more exotic pieces may carry collector premiums.
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Thanks for that Chzman, made for a nice quick read to refresh the memory. I ended up coming to the conclusion (with help that is) that it is Machine Doubling. Funny you bring up Mr. Diamond and Coin World. He is doing an article on the "off-metal" Kennedy I sent him that ended up being a counterfeit made from 2 real coins. I'm sure it will be an interesting read. :)
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That does sound good, would you send me the link when its ready please?
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I can definitely do that, I'll send you a PM with a link to the article when it is up.
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Funny you bring up Mr. Diamond and Coin World. He is doing an article on the "off-metal" Kennedy I sent him that ended up being a counterfeit made from 2 real coins. I'm sure it will be an interesting read.

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That does sound good, would you send me the link when its ready please?
Here is the thread discussing the find...

https://goccf.com/t/132278
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Thanks jbuck, I have been to that post before. We were talking about the link to the article being written about the counterfeit pictured in that forum.
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 Posted 11/02/2012  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No problem. I was also providing the link for others who may be wondering what you two were talking about.
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