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Valued Member
Canada
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I'm curious to know what you guys think about these ? Below are "some" (did not search thorougly) Philip II tetradrachms, LeRider 531, sold in the past years. All are from the same obv/rev dies (as far as I can see), most do not seem to have circulated much and it almost look as if they were struck one after the other (same dies state). Yet, they are all different. Other types are known to have been struck with only one or very few dies in great numbers (Lykkeios tet., Nagidos stater,...) but I always wonder when I see so many of the same sold in so little time  Anyone is aware of a recently (10-15 years ago) found hoard of these that could have infiltrated the market ? 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This raises questions in my mind like are they all real or could they all be faked coins using the same die? I'm just not familiar enough with these coins, and I would most certainly be fooled by any one of them if they are fakes?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2838 Posts |
Ignore the above, mine are all cast and have the same flans, having a blonde moment  They still have a very definite similarity to the details on your coins though
Edited by bobbyhelmet 11/02/2012 10:36 am
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Valued Member
 Canada
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bobbyhelmet, was getting to them  Yes, they are die matches, cast presumably from a genuine specimen. So, in this sense, no link with the others I've posted. Still, I wonder ?
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Oupsss 
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Quote: Still, I wonder ? Yeah, something not quite right but no proof at all. Makes you wonder, a find of genuine coins from unknown dies not reported to the authorities and sold by the finder could easily all be branded fake when they hit the market. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...100-000.htmlSay for example if these were not reported and only contained unknown dies (with lots matching) or even unknown varieties. I'm sure as the finder started selling them and buyers noticed that the coins they had bought matched others suddenly on the market a lot of suspicion would be aroused and the authenticity of the whole lot could be called into question. I suppose in cases like that an experts 'opinion' as to real or fake would be the only 'evidence' but it would be almost impossible to be 100% sure.
Edited by bobbyhelmet 11/02/2012 11:21 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Dionysos ... ummm, what about this one?   ... this is definitely one of my favourite coins!! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Steve- I dont like the coin send to me for disposal!!
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Valued Member
 Canada
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The only [other] explanation would indeed be an unreported hoard. Looking at them individually, from the pics, I personally do not see anything suspicious. But seen as a whole it does raise some questions, if not about authenticity then at least regarding the provenance. Steve, what a lovely coin you got there, you have superior tastes 
Edited by Dionysos 11/02/2012 12:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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 =>for anybody who doesn't know => coin.ages => Rocks!!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yea as far as coin.ages...they do rock...I just don't feel comfy working a $900 Athens tet down to my $250 cap. The guy is sharp and I am poor...I am a bottom feeder at heart.
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