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United States
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 Posted 11/05/2012  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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for those collecting OFEC how do you make the decision of what stays and what goes?

That would be the reason I don't want to go into OFECing, I wouldn't want to restrict myself.

I know some people do TFEC, TFEC, FFEC, FFEC, SFEC, etc.
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 Posted 11/07/2012  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Personally, I only have three Germanies: "Reich" (which includes Empire, Weimar, Third and Occupied), "Federal" (which includes West and United) and "East". German states are all listed as separate countries.

Agreed and signed. ;) Sure makes more sense than counting each "incarnation" as a separate country. A simple look at the country names helps a lot - you have Deutsches Reich (1871-1948), Bundesrepublik Deutschland (1949-today) and Deutsche Demokratische Republik (1949-1990). The second one, the Federal Republic, includes several "phases" anyway - Saarland joined the Fed. Rep. in 1957, the five Eastern (ex-GDR) states joined in 1990.

Now the pre-1871 countries in Germany I count separately as well. I also consider the USSR and Russia to be different countries. Ultimately, well, there are no fixed rules in this regard anyway ...

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 Posted 11/08/2012  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terchua to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello. Amazing that quite a lot of you have collected more than 200 countries. Do you shop often, or just buy a large coin lot?
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 Posted 11/08/2012  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me, every time I hear of someone who is going abroad or coming back, I ask them to save me their pocket change.

I always offer the exchange value but it's not often taken up.
The value of the coins isn't usually great, since the coins are from circulation, but sometimes a coin turns out to be rare or valuable.

For example, from my father, 10 yen coins of Japan dated 1957, 1958, and 1959 in BU; 4 1987 1 Santim coins of Morocco from a colleague; a small bag of Russian 20 kopeks dated 1970, 1973, 1976.
It's nice to have some rarities but I'm almost as pleased to have the ordinary coins - seeing the different designs and identifying them is what interests me.
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 Posted 11/10/2012  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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For me, to be a "new country", there has to be some kind of significant change in government plus a change in borders, or a change in name. I don't really see any of that in Latvia, so I call both incarnations of it one country.

Russia's a little more complex; I have three: Empire, RSFSR and Post-Communist. The USSR has it's own separate listing.

For France, I used to subdivide it into nine parts: First Kingdom, First Republic, First Empire, Second Kingdom, Second Republic, Second Empire, Third Republic, Vichy State and Modern Republic. I've since re-amalgamated them all under "France", except for the Vichy State; all the others are really just government changes; the borders and name stayed much the same for the other eight transitions.


My current favorite in terms of "different countries" is England/UK... my current list has England (pre-1707), Great Britain (1707-1801), and United Kingdom (1801 to date), but I only have one coin from each of the first two (1699 fourpence and 1797 cartwheel penny respectively). My current list does not include Scotland, because I wasn't sure if 1950s "Scottish" shillings count; Jersey, Guernsey and Man are of course separate countries entirely (I only have one of the first two, but forgot which one).

For Russia, I have the Russian Federation, USSR, RSFSR, the Russian Empire, and the Tsardom of Russia (pre-1700s... not sure of exact date, but Ivan IV coins certainly go there). I've considered listing the 1991 Parliament series as a separate "country", but I'm not entirely sure.

For Germany, my current list has Empire, Weimar, Nazi, East, and modern, plus a possible point for the Bank Deutscher Lander of 1949 (though even I think it doesn't really deserve being called a "country"). That doesn't include any of the pre-1867 states (not that I have many).

For France, I basically use the same divisions as you originally did, but currently only have the last four and First Republic (plus an Orleans coin from 1651).


...There are several other countries which I similarly divide. Yet even with all of that, my current estimate of country count is an awfully low 130
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 Posted 11/10/2012  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are a million and one ways to look at this - none are correct - only what suits you.

I've just counted my "coin issuing entities" list and it comes out at 413. I do separate out the German and Indian states (and Swiss cantons and Italian states) but France is just France and the UK is just the UK - even before it is the UK - completely arbitary and inconsistant - but it works for me.

I haven't my ancients in this at all so there would be another 50 or so Greek city states to add if I did that.

What adds to the list is all those medieval oddities like the Kingdom of Vijayanagar, or the Seljuks or Rum or The Suris Kingdom or the Spanish Umayids Afghan civic coinage etc, those are very definitely seperate entities but don't fit neatly into the modern concept of "country".

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 Posted 11/11/2012  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello CCF group members:

In Sept. Coin World ran an article about collecting a coin from every country/issuing entity. They mentioned a group that was founded based on this concept. it is a web based Yahoo group which I joined:

everycountry · One coin per country collectors group

This ia a great group with loads of information and checklists that you can download and adapt to your collecting interests. The latest list has over 7,000 issuing entities. I've jumped in and updated the 20th & 21st centuries checklist, which is now being reviewed and should be posted shortly. Additionally I just incorporated the 19th century in with the 20th and 21st, so this will create another list that will make it easier to expand your collection. I strongly suggest you check out the group.

I recently started to pull my coins from various accumulations and boxes, organizing them according to my customized list, and I now am up to 174, with a few more thousand to go through.

I originally was going to do a 20th century type set collection, but this is way more interesting and more focused. As I get nearer to completing one century, I can jump backwards or to look at the sub groupings.

The best thing about it is the great feedback and guidance you get.

I'm a fan.

Look it up.

KK
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