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CASE #1

A certified package en route to CAC from CT. has been reported stolen/missing. The last known location was the Morgan St. Post Office New York City. The package included the following $20 Gold coins:

1908 MS66 PCGS 2787773
1908 MS66 PCGS 4631558
1924 MS66 PCGS 50118084
1924 MS66 PCGS 30002057
1924 MS66 PCGS 30002057
1924 MS66 PCGS 50117692
1924 MS66 PCGS 50097963
1924 MS66 PCGS 50114444
1924 MS66 PCGS 30001245
1924 MS66 PCGS 50117914
1924 MS66 PCGS 50117907
1924 MS66 PCGS 50118045
1924 MS66 PCGS 90004604
1925 MS66 PCGS 50119504
1925 MS66 PCGS 50051294
1925 MS66 PCGS 50118203
1927 MS66 PCGS 50112318
1927 MS66 PCGS 50117895
1927 MS66 PCGS 50112903
1927 MS66 PCGS 50114927
1924 MS66 PCGS 9000485
1927 MS66 PCGS 30001246
1928 MS66 PCGS 4901233
1928 MS65 NGC 163052-015.


CASE #2

A lot of 20 high grade Walking Liberty half dollars enroute to PCGS has been reported stolen/missing. The coins originated in Ruston, LA to Shreveport, LA and then California via USPS.


CASE #3

A 1933 $1 FRN
Richmond-Major Fold Over Error
PMG 40 EPQ FR 1918-E S/N E76728097 D has been reported stolen from USPS Miami Florida.

CASE #4

The following coins have been reported stolen:

1910 gold Quarter Eagle Indian NGC MS62 3130631
1911 gold Quarter Eagle Indian NGC MS62 3147500-012
1911D gold Quarter Eagle Indian PCGS AU55 25577472
1912 gold Quarter Eagle Indian PCGS 14867354
1913 gold Quarter Eagle Indian PCGS 12120994.

Anyone with information on the cases listed above should contact:

Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug[b][/b]@[b][/b]numismaticcrimes.[b][/b]org
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Oh not again :(you

But that is an expensive steal. Probably more money there than robbing a bank.
its sad because it is so hard to recover coins.
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WOW that is alot of NICE coins to go missing. Hopefully they will be left in the holders and will be found soon. I am guessing there is a crooked USPS employee behind this. Someone that knows what CAC is and they they get allot of high end coins, so hopefully if they know all of this they will also know they are worth more in the holders.
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For the CAC package I would be curious to know the date of the shipment. Its very possible someone stole it but if it was shipped during the storm its possible it just got lost in the chaos too
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This is horrible, but I'm guessing all of this was insured. For something that expensive, wouldn't this have been registered mail. Those packages get signed in and out and are locked up at various stages and always scanned. A registered package being lost could probably be pinpointed to one of only a small handful of USPS employees.
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Youd think theyd have been registered but the best I can find looks like you can buy insurance up to 5k for all mailing options and up to 25k for registered mail
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Wow - how horrible. I am going to mail out a small coin package soon - and this is so scary. My coins, are not worth that much - I plan on sending them through the local post office - what services should I request. I'm assuming registered with insurance, signature on receipt (certified)?

Will the sender make good on the value for you? I'm assuming your package was insured? So sorry to read this post. Linda
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Beacon it depends a lot on the value of the coins. It doesn't make a lot of send to pay 15-20 dollars to ship something worth less than that. I honestly wouldnt insurance anything under 40-50 dollars personally but about 10 dollars is the lowest it could be worth without paying more to ship it than its worth with insurance. If you use delivery confirmation or tracking it should be fine. But you could add insurance onto that too if you wanted too.

Registered mail is pretty expensive compared to other shipping options and makes more sense for things 100s of dollars in value or more
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Thanks, yes over $1,000 - thus I thought registered would be the way to go..... certified with a return receipt - signature on delivery. Am I missing anything? Just worried..... Linda
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Registered with insurance and delivery confirmation for the exact value, no less.
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Over 1000 definitely registered mail, if you have signature and tracking youve done all you can.

The other option you could consider would be express mail with insurance. You can insure up to 5k. Itll move so fast through the system people will have less time to think about a way to steal it and itll basically go directly there skipping some of the stops so fewer people will get hands on it
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Had not thought of express mail - I just boxed it in a priority box - it's value is 5,600 to be exact. I put it in a small flat rate box. Maybe I should re-box? Over-night it? It is not too heavy..... Thoughts? Linda
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Priority I'm pretty sure you can insure up to 5k. I've never had the problem with it being over that value but I've also never had any major problems with priority mail either.

If you happen to be sending it to the north east where the storm hit Id wait a couple more days. Their mail is a mess along with a lot of other things. I tried sending a package there and its just sitting at the PO right now because of the damage
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Thanks! Will do! Again, sorry for the original poster - hope your coins are recovered! Linda
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thats tragic poor coins. I can only imagine how sick the owner feels whoever did this should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. If it was sandys doing then well mther nature has given her rath
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I wouldn't use registered mail unless you are sending something like a family heirloom or anything over 5000. You can insure for up to 5000 otherwise and registered is extremely slow shipping...slower than media in most cases.

Registered is the safest so if you were sending an old wedding ring or something, I'd sue it. Otherwise, if USPS wants to lose the coins you were gonna sell for 4000, they'll pay out just the same for priority or even FC. Over 5000, it won't be covered anymore so registered is needed.
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