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ANACS Error Description On A Ebay Listing

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 Posted 11/06/2012  12:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Zimmy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Take a look at this ANACS error description of an ebay listing. This was a hatchet job! % off was reversed and they made no mention of a mirror brockage. After this, I am not sure who would want them to certify their error coin.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ND-25C-Wash...37931568?pt=
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ANACS has mis-labeled some of my error coins also...
I would call this a 85% off center with Obverse brockage on the reverse...
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Here is a 5 peso same type of error from Argentina that is also a mirror brockage, I forgot to rotate the bottom photo 90 degrees prior to posting to photobucket.

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There is no serious mistake in the diagnosis. However, I would not have described it as a partial brockage, as the latter term implies that the brockage only covers part of the area that was between the dies.

A more serious omission is the fact that the coin was harshly cleaned with an abrasive substance on both faces. I used to own the coin, so I speak from experience.
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I think technically the part of the planchet that was actually
O.C. would be the % as that is what was struck. In this case
the 15% may be a tad low. But the TPG's may usually go with the % of the blank part of the planchet. Seeing as there are
different types of brockages maybe they just generalize.
They should not but ?
I believe that Anacs overall does the best job on errors/varieties than the other TPG's. If you know for sure
what you have and send it in, make sure to let them know in writing on your sub. form or even on a separate piece of paper. In the hard core Coin World, semantics do not cut it.

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LOL :)
Guess I am a slow typer. Mike D. chimed in first
while I was replying.
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ANACS has done some incredibly questionable attributions, mostly in the last couple of years. I've had Gem Red coins called MS62 RB, I've had others that came out of OBWs that were called "Recolored" in wholesale quantities... Still others that were significant doubled dies that never got labeled as such. I don't trust what their labels say at all, ever.

I've cracked some examples of their most recent yellow label holders and gotten grades two points higher with the other TPGs. For a lot of die varieties, I do better having them accurately graded and unattributed in a PCGS or NGC holder, they bring more money that way.

Because of all this I've cut my ANACS submissions back from about 50 coins a month to less than 20. They do okay when you spoon-feed them with precise attribution numbers. When Chuck Daughtry was doing contract attributions for them, every single coin was dead-on perfect.

Sorry to sound so negative about ANACS, hoping that one day an ANACS attributor stumbles upon this and can explain some of what happens in that company.

Also, for the record, they haven't recorded or updated population reports since 2005, so don't use their pop reports to guage rarity, the information is greatly skewed.
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Mike,
The ANACS coin should have read about 75% O/C or something like that, not 15% O/C. ANACS also never mentioned that it was a mirror brockage.
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