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 Posted 03/27/2007  10:28 pm Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey All,

I'm just curious about everyone's opinions on what unique coloration of coins can add to the grade or value. Are most of them a byproduct of poor cleaning or have I been staring at them for far too long?

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-Confused Colorblind Coin Collector
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 Posted 03/28/2007  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like you, I also have a problem, and that is; what possible value is added to something that has been damaged. That and the fact that this damage does absolutely nothing as far as grade goes.

You won't be catching me staring at any of these again.
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The beauty of tones coins is in the eyes of the beholder ,, contrary to popular belief toning in most cases is not damage,, the colors which come onto a toned coin enhance the uniqueness of the coin ,,this is where the added value comes from ,,it does not change the grade.

the strike,details,and handling of the coin do not change,,

there are examples of toned coins which have been cleaned ,,I have several Merc's which were polished and placed into a display back in the 60's they have since toned some very vibrant colors ,but they remain cleaned Merc's with little or no value numismatically ,but to look at they are pretty thats about it .I picked up the display at a yard sale 12 merc's dating back to 1919 for five bucks .I replaced the Merc's in the display with other coins and it hangs on my wall now .

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 Posted 03/29/2007  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Graceoutcast, let me try and answer your questions. Since I collect Morgans and am most familiar with that series, I will base my responses from that perspective.

There are several combinations of colors that are sought after and command a premium, and most would agree that green is the color of choice. Beautiful natural color, in combination with a high technical grade can lead to premiums of 50 to 100 times sheet, but that is only for the best of the best, the top 2-5%.
As to affecting grade, beautiful toning does add to the eye appeal of a coin and may lead to a grade bump if the coin is already borderline. In other words, a PQ ms64 might get the 65 if the toning was exceptional and all three graders agreed. Remember, not only do we look at strike, luster, contact marks etc when we grade, but we are supposed to take eye appeal into consideration as well......the graders do.
Most toned morgans are the by-product of spending 70 years or so sitting undisturbed in their 1000 coin mintbags. The sulphur from the bags caused toning on the coins which came in contact with the cloth.
OldDan, toning in no way damages the surface of a coin. Period. What does damage a coins surface is dipping it to make it all shiny and bright white again.
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 Posted 03/29/2007  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This thread needs a picture.
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 Posted 03/29/2007  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone!

You answered all my questions

I have a TON of foreign coins that are quite colorful but too bad I am partially colorblind so I have no idea what they are.

Once I get me a new scanner I'll eventually post some pics of some really beautiful rainbow colored ones I have.

Thanks again!
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 Posted 03/29/2007  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well atleast I THINK they are rainbow colored

I need a gosh dern scanner!
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