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Attica, Aegina Stater

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I believe this coin deserves it's own thread (probably cause I spent so darn much on it). Thanks to DavidUK who introduced this particular coin and then allowed me to bid on it, and thanks to my friend Jerry who had to show off his Yertle a couple of months ago which made me want to find one for myself.

Attica,-Aegina-Stater

Attica,-Aegina-Stater

OBV: Sea-turtle (T-backed); head in profile
REV: Large square incuse with skew pattern
11,96g, 20mm

This is a former CNG coin http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=214758. The seller identified it as Good Fine, toned, metal flaws and test cuts on shell, faint punchmark to left of turtle, deposits within incuse
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 Posted 11/18/2012  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good choice Bing, I like it.

Got the whole turtle centered and even the tail, congrats.
The little countermark cool.
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 Posted 11/18/2012  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Doucet. I wonder, does anyone think I should try to remove the deposits or just leave it alone?
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 Posted 11/18/2012  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin.

I don't own any Greek coins at all. I'd consider leaving the coin as it is. Depends on what you want, I guess. I've seen a lot of really clean silver coins and wondered if they were authentic or not.
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 Posted 11/18/2012  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
....i want one [waa]
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 Posted 11/18/2012  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great coin--going by Wildwinds, the t-back turtles are ca 475â€"457 BC. An old coin--that's almost the archaic period of Greece.
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 Posted 11/18/2012  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd clean it except for the fact that it appears as it is on that CNG listing so I'd leave it alone allowing you to reference that sale if you ever what to sell it. Provinence to CNG will make it easier to sell but it needs not to change. Print out that CNG page and save the file as well. They always underestimate but someone really paid high at $450 over $200 estimate. Without the brown, the centering makes it a very nice coin. I don't know what you paid but you'll be unlikely to find a better centering one under $800 so it is a question of how much to take off for the messiness? Congratulations.
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 Posted 11/18/2012  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone. I will heed your advice Doug. I did get a good price on this one. With shipping it came to $303. That's so much more than I generally ever think about paying for a coin. I've still got the nervous jitters over this one. Like I said on the other thread, I will just blame steve6x for making me buy this coin.
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 Posted 11/18/2012  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Considering the CNG listing says someone paid $450 for it, you really want to save that listing. I would have paid $303 but think $450 might be pushing it all things considered. I suggest not selling this one but letting the grandkids fight over who has to take it.
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 Posted 11/18/2012  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin Bing.
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 Posted 11/18/2012  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grats again Bing...

The residue looks slightly more on the CNG photo's so maybe someone tried some light cleaning of some kind already. I would leave it as it is personally since I dont think it is a problem.

The turtle is great, I love that it is so chunky and nicely centred... a great buy if ever I saw one and I would have snapped it up myself had I available funds (I am away for next month and Christmas is coming too so I have to be careful...expecially since the GF likes gold and I bought her some for christmas) if you ever want to sell the coin give me first refusal :)
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 Posted 11/19/2012  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


jw,

All I can say is Wow......before I started collecting Ancients, this is one of three coins that I wanted...still don't have any of the 3....Very nice....
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 Posted 11/19/2012  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi JW.
As do you know I'm not interested in Greek coins, because, as said many times, I can't see behind them the precise historical moment that instead gives me Roman or medieval coinage. (beyond the fact that usually authentic Greek coins are priced excessively high).
however, I must admit that this is a very interesting coin and good looking to the eye.
Certainly I think that, you had to desire it much, to pay that amount, which, I think it'a really appropriate for a coin like this.
congrats.
P.S.I would ask you a question.
would you spend that kind of money(or a bitmore) for agood little V century ae 4....for example johannes?because I'm thinking something similar as gift for next xmas :-)))))
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 Posted 11/19/2012  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Giano: Sure. Not a problem except don't hold your breath.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on what Doug said...what is the brown stuff? If it's horn silver, should it be stabilized?
Granted it's not my coin, but I think it's worth looking into conservation.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doug I wouldn't touch it, You would be taking away from the character and like Doug said it would differ from the CNG listing after you cleaned it. If you must..I would suggest an acetone bath, for 10 minutes and a light q-tipping..but I wouldn't! I want it to look just like the CnG listing when I....well...collect it...

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