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 Posted 12/08/2012  12:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Well my wife told me to go on the computer and pick out my Christmas present and I grudgingly accepted I really wanted to add to my collection of famous military commanders and destroyed civilizations. With a little wit and a lot of hunting I was able to kill two birds with one...ugh well two stones .

I came up with some not so ancient coins but still old and significant enough that I can post them here and will be at least mildly appreciated.

The first coin is not your run of the mill medieval Islamic coin, but rather a glimpse into the past and rather complicated geopolitical environment of the 13th century AD.

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These coins I could not wait to show you guys!
The first coin as I said before is not a run of the mill 13th century Islamic Coins but rather a coin that names a governor of a town in Afghanistan and its over lord.

The coin is a Billon Jital (AH 602-624 / AD 1206-1227) that reads Al-Nasir Ud-din Allah amir al-muminin / Adl Khaqan al-Azam (coin of the Great Khan)
In arabic on reverse.
17mm, 4.28 grams. Ghazna mint.
Tye 329; SICA 9, 1008; Nyamaa 5; Album 1969.

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It does not take much explaining as to who "The Great Khan" is he went by a few names... Chingiz, Temujin but we know him as Genghis Khan. Ruler of all the Mongol tribes and Master of all of Asia. Highly trained nomadic horseman from the steppes of Mongolia, set here eyes on the prize, the brought mighty China to its knees and stretched their Empire across Asia right to the European doorstep. Genghis Khan controlled possibly the largest Empire that ever existed. He was able to defeat armies with use of vast numbers of highly trained and highly loyal horse archers, able to attack and withdrawal and cover vast amounts of territory in a short period of time. He carried a policy of religious and cultural tolerance to all people..to all people who did not oppose him.

This coin was struck in the remnants of the once might Khwarezm Empire. (Located in dark green on your map)

I would like to include an excerpt from my sellers listing..and my other coinThe largest of this rare type...

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Al-Sultan in the center, Mohamed and additional inscriptions (al-Sultan al-azam... the rest unread) in the margins / Mohamed Bin Takesh in a monogram in the center, additional inscriptions (presumably mint and date) in the margins. 31mm, 7.45 grams. Mint of Balkh. MWOI 910.

This rare type is poorly studied - the inscriptions were never read completely, and because this type is always very weakly struck, they are hard to read. Still, a very interesting and rare huge silver coin of this infamous ruler!
Mohamed Khwarezmshah was the most famous and powerful of the rulers of Khwarezm, though he is most known for his downfall and the story of the great expansion of the Empire of Genghis Khan. In 1218, Genghis Khan sent some emissaries to the Shah, but when he executed the Mongol diplomats in defiance of the emerging great power, Genghis retaliated with a force of 200,000 men. In February 1220 the Mongolian army crossed the Syr Darya and launched the Mongol invasion of Central Asia. The Mongols stormed Bukhara, Samarkand, and the Khwarezmid capital Urgench. The Shah fled and died some weeks later on an island in the Caspian Sea.

He sent 200,000 troops against Khwarezm- the Shah divided up his forces each section defending one city, Genghis on the other hand divided his forces in three and attacked from three sides sweeping city after city and finally defeating the whole of the empire, and destroying their most magestic capitol city.
It is said that Genghis Khan put the entire population to the sword. Each man in Genghis army is said to have had a 24 person killing quota...it is thought millions died in the fields outside the cities. The Particular governor whom so disrespected by not recieving his trade of silver and killing his diplomats sent by the Khan on peaceful terms faced the worst fate. Contrary to Mongol tradition that a political entity should die a bloodless death by breaking the back-this man faced a mouthful of molten silver....

I hope you enjoyed the coins as much as I have.
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12/08/2012 12:25 am
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Anoob, very nice, love the charts and info, the coins are great to..my wife asked me what I wanted for Christmas and I told her put $200 on the visa..
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 Posted 12/08/2012  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There you go now we are cooking with crisco! Gotta get some coins, a bad habit we have eh?
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 Posted 12/08/2012  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a very interesting read--and new coins I've never seen before, cool!
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 Posted 12/08/2012  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting coins and history. I've always wanted a coin from the Mongol empire. These coins are ones that I've never seen. Congrats.
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 Posted 12/08/2012  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
now that is interesting...very interesting AN. I told myself no coins in december.............

but SANATA could bring me some coins, that wouldn't count as me buying coin would it? of course not!
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 Posted 12/08/2012  12:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aiglet7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for sharing the both the coins and the history - it makes fascinating reading!
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 Posted 12/08/2012  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome coins and history!
Thanks for sharing!
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 Posted 12/08/2012  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am very excited to be receiving these coins...the would be my most modern "ancient" coins, and the only ones I have of the period. I have seen only a few coins attributed to the Great Khan, there is I think only 3 on numismall right now. In the past I have seen them on the bay and seeing as though I cannot read Arabic and I don't have a firm grasp of the coinage I opted to wait. The seller I got them from is an expert who specializes in Indian and other types of Oriental coinage. I feel very confident with these two pieces. I am excited about the Great Khan coin but I am more eager to see and hold the 31mm 7+ gram Khwarezm badboy, thats just some wild dimensions. I am really glad that a few of you guys approve of my coin interests and seem to appreciate them as I do. the bigger question is whats next in my life...

I am way over due for a super nice Roman. I might go after some inexpensive Vandal coinage I came across. I think I need some Republic denari, oh the wonderful world of ancient coins. Theres always something out there rare and exotic with its own story and history....
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Just goes to show that you never should provoke Genghis Kahn! lol

Nice coins!
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 Posted 12/09/2012  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow Stinky => awesome new coins!!

Ummm, you are definitely finding your own "niche" (specific product) ...

=> I'm lovin' your new coin-direction (Rule it, Dawg!!)
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Oh no, Mongol coins. Genghis Khan got my attention as a kid. His utter ferocity and lack of empathy plus total ambition made him a force of nature. Thanks for the great story (information).
Cool coins. I've always been interested in 13th century, along with all history, the older the better.
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 Posted 12/12/2012  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Received today!


I can really see myself getting more of the coins of the Khwarezm Empire they are awesome in hand large like the Sassanian Dihrem but twice as heavy. The Khan is just an awesome historical piece. Much newer then I am used too but very old non-the-less! Oh and I didn't mention the Khwarezm is Balkh, Afghanistan mint. The Khan is minted in Ghazna, also in Afghanistan!

My own photos!



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sweet!!
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awesome!
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new photos and a resurrection considering the renewed interest in Islamic coins.

...and it Medieval

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