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Unusual Argentina Coin For Identification

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 Posted 12/16/2012  4:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Abel3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I hope the bright folk here can help me identify and explain
this unusual specimen (see my notes below image)

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Out of my area of expertise. Text states Republica Argentina. Appearance similar to 181x or so coins with the fine parallel lines in the central oval (although these don't say Republica Argentina and have the value and date on this same side). The reverse side is an impressed mirror image strike of the other side (perhaps the previous struck coin was retained in the press at the same time as this planchet?). The edge (not shown) has a fairly uniform pattern across the coin, perhaps not what I would perhaps expect from an obstructed half strike. I don't have a balance sufficiently precise to weigh. Any thoughts much appreciated.
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 Posted 12/16/2012  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not touchin this one. There's a couple examples of Arg. pieces w/2 rev;etc. on ebay.
Here's one, a 2006. 13 bids & closed around $250, I think.


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 Posted 12/16/2012  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello and welcome. Hope we can help.

The design looks too crude to be that of a genuine Argentine coin. The E in "Argentina", for example, is dropped quite a bit below the line o the other letters. But I have a couple of questions.

Do the obverse and mirror-image reverse line up exactly, or is the reverse at about 120 degrees, as you've depicted?

What's the thickness and diameter?

I'm thinking, if it's thin, and the obverse and reverse are actually aligned, then it's a pressed badge of some kind.
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Many thanks for the incredibly rapid responses.

Yes the two sides are pretty much exactly aligned (I rotated when photographing). About half the thickness of a UK silver thruppence (perhaps 0.6mm thick) and exactly the same diameter as a thruppence.

It was in an old collection that hasn't been touched for 50 years or so.

Possibly a little badge-like, but not very convincingly so.
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 Posted 12/17/2012  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If this is a badge there should be, or should have been, some method of attaching it to whatever it was worn on. I would expect some kind of mark on the reverse at the top, centre, or two marks at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions towards the edge, where the mount had broken off. I dont see any such marks, but it might just be me.

Are there any marks around the edge which suggest a mount?
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Many thanks again. No, there is nothing indicating any prior attachments.

Although it is thinner than an average coin, I don't think it is possible for the reverse details to have been produced simply from a pattern strike on one side, and certainly the fine details (such as the interior parallel grid) would not have punched through. Therefore I think it must have been struck against another positive (a retained prior strike preventing the rear strike?)
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 Posted 12/29/2012  03:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roderick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could this be not a coin at all but rather the center of a low quality mass produced uniform button?
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 Posted 01/14/2015  02:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gascoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Abel, it´s not a coin, maybe a private token or medal but never an official coin.
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