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1799 Silver Draped Bust Dollar

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 Posted 12/17/2012  09:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add morgandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is this the 1799/8 over-date, and what grade do you think it is.

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Also, what TPG should I send it to?

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 Posted 12/17/2012  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
morgandude

I would suggest that you get this lovely lady TOP III TPG certified as soon as practical. ANACS is the least expensive, no clubs to join, but their holders are not attractive (to me) at all, but they would authenticate it. You could submit it through an authorized dealer to PCGS (preferred) or NGC.

It looks good to me, but I am far from an expert, especially on the Bust Series.

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 Posted 12/17/2012  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If your goal is to sell then PCGS is preferred followed by NGC. with the anomaly shown on the rim of the fourth photo it may have some damage (possible jewelry mount) that would result in a details grade. Have you verified it is silver? Many fakes of there out there.
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 Posted 12/17/2012  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morgandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
where do you see damage on the rim edge?
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 Posted 12/17/2012  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What looks like edge damage I believe is really the cellophane wrapper the coin resides in (IMO).
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 Posted 12/17/2012  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could be a reflection but what I see is below the eagle on the rim of the fourth photo.
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 Posted 12/17/2012  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morgandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I have since taken this coin out of the wrapper and found out that the edge looks suspect.

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 Posted 12/17/2012  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's just how the edge of a genuine Draped Bust dollar should look. Those symbols are laid down at the end of each half of the edge lettering.
I'm thinking B-9 BB-166 for the die marriage, but the cellophane and angled pics is making some of the diagnostics tough.
I'll say it forever: keep these beauties out of slabs!
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 Posted 12/17/2012  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't buy something like that raw. The chinese make these all day long
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 Posted 12/17/2012  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That coin is not the rare 1799/8 variety. It is the 1799 7x6, B-9, BB-166, R-1 (the so-called APOSTROPHE variety) you can clearly see the 'apostrophe' (die crack) after the final "S" in States.
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 Posted 12/17/2012  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'll say it forever: keep these beauties out of slabs!

The market demands slabs for maximum value.
A slab is practically a must for this coin if you ever plan on selling it online or in an auction.
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 Posted 12/17/2012  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rayman311 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Morgandude- These early dollars are tricky to grade but I would say VF details. Philadelphian and g048406 have the variety attributed.

I concur with the recommendation of the others to slab it, especially if you plan to sell it, since it will provide an extra level of comfort to prospective buyers. Mkman123 makes a good point and argument for this as well. You have received good advice on the advantages of different TPGs. In general PCGS seems to command slightly more $$ with NGC a close second (on average).

Here is my 1799/8 overdate for comparison.

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Good luck!
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 Posted 12/17/2012  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add linxlvr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't grade these at all, but I am envious. :-)

Nice Coin.
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It appears genuine on my first impression. If your goal is to sell it, yes, TPG certification is a must. A must anyways!
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 Posted 12/17/2012  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How soon they forget! Remember the 1800 dollar we all helped authenticate and grade right here on this forum? The one that sold, raw, for $11,500 just 11 days ago? Not including buyer's premium? Compare that to what any slabbed example gets at Heritage!

https://goccf.com/t/134798

What the TPG's really sell is fear. Fear of counterfeits, fear of being cheated. When collectors come together on a forum like this, to teach and learn from each other, we can put each other's fears to rest, and the slabbers will have nothing to sell but their plastic.
Sorry for the soapbox.
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 Posted 12/18/2012  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morgandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
why do you think it will get the details grade?
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