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Thought This Deserved To Be Posted In The Ancients Section

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From this topic in World Coins:

https://goccf.com/t/136321

alibaba.com where (generally) Chinese manufacturing outfits tout their products looking for importers and 'middlemen' into Europe and the Americas. I was a member myself at one point, its interesting to see whats available and at what price.

They seem to have a number of sellers willing to fake any type of ancient you could want. Some are better than others.

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http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/118328335/Roman_Emperor_Constantine_the_Great.html


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http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/112696630/Sell_Roman_coin_copper.html


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http://www.alibaba.com/productshowimg/xiaocong-121894040-0/JUSTINIAN_I_Nikomedia.html


I'm hoping this doesn't breach any of the forum rules but not 100% sure

Credit to member jcmworld for starting the original thread, I just wanted to bring it to the ancient sections members attentions.
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I appreciate the warning of unscrupulous folks counterfeiting ancient coins. Since I'm a novice fakes scare me. My only solace is that I'm limited to buying coins priced less than usd 50.00. I can't see the more common, less valuable coins be economically viable to counterfeit.
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Man, I always get angry when I see "fakes/copies" ... sadly, it is far too easy for anybody (me) to accidentally purchase one of these babies, thinking that it is the Real-McCoy!! (yah, and I think that they should be illegal, unless they have "fake/copy" stamped somewhere on them, right? ... is it just me?) ...

=> it's a bit like counterfeiting, no?

Ummm, I personally would recommend castration as a means of reducing the number of these fake coins ... that always seems to be a pretty good deterrent, eh?

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Thanks for the heads up.
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Scary good fakeries - I'm with CA - The only safe place to buy is below the $50 range. Id go as far as to say the sub $20 range.

Not even uncleaned coins are safe these days - people have been caught selling metal blanks coated in clay. Its scary stuff.
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The Justinian follis is one I've seen numerous times before; this thread has one, with links to several more on the FORVM fake database.

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...and I think that they should be illegal, unless they have "fake/copy" stamped somewhere on them, right? ... is it just me?

They already are illegal, in America. Under the Hobby Protection Act, importing and/or selling fake coins that aren't clearly marked COPY is against the law. Anyone in America ordering that junk off AliBaba is breaking the law.

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Scary good fakeries - I'm with CA - The only safe place to buy is below the $50 range. Id go as far as to say the sub $20 range.

"That coin is too cheap to be genuine" is always a good attitude.

"That coin is too cheap to be worth counterfeiting" is not a good attitude. The whole point of bobbyhelmet's post is that they're already counterfeiting sub-$20 items.

Your best defence is to only ever buy from trusted sellers, that have been in the business for years, that know how to spot all but the best-quality fakes, and will happily refund your money if a coin you buy off them turns out later to be a fake, even years or decades later.
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Thanks for posting this.
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Your best defence is to only ever buy from trusted sellers, that have been in the business for years, that know how to spot all but the best-quality fakes, and will happily refund your money if a coin you buy off them turns out later to be a fake, even years or decades later.
No better advice than this.
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