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Attribution Sought: 1799 Bust Dollar

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 Posted 01/14/2013  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Afford?
My dear 1916 D Merc, what makes you think that I could afford it?
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 Posted 01/14/2013  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm in the same place 1916 D...

I can only wish!
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 Posted 01/18/2013  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would like to acknowledge as many replies as possible with pertinent findings.

SsuperDdave,
Using your suggestion: B-5, BB-157, I found several examples which I used to compare my coin to.
The die crack is unmistakable, although the weak "U" is not consistently weak.
The examples which showed the letter first "T" in "States" with TWO die cracks, at a 90 degree angle, match mine.
Quite different. I have never seen such an example.
" A lovely coin." Coming from you, 20 times better than a CAC sticker!

jeffrose,
I found the overview quite informative. However, without pictures I had to resort to searching with Dave's hint.

g48406,
I respectfully disagree with you.

Condor101,
"bifurcated?" I LOVE that word!
Attribution-Sought:-1799-Bust-Dollar
Here is a 1795 Dollar showing the same "fancy" lettering.
Would you call this bifurcated, too?
To me, the letter "I" is a giveaway.

mysilveryears,
I found, but cannot locate, two examples which match your
"cut in two" example.
Are you, or anyone, familiar with the advice:

"Use it up, wear it out.
Make it do, or do without." ?

Apparently, the early years of minting coins was all about
saving money.
"Use the die until it shatters!"

To one and all, thank you for the kind comments about this coin.
I thought it was "sweet'; otherwise, I would not have bought it.










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 Posted 01/18/2013  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This thread delivers on multiple levels.
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Quote:
"..found, but cannot locate"

m/v, I think you might be describing my brain in the a.m. before the coffee kicks in.

And yep, I certainly have heard that old Yankee saying. I have practiced that philosophy most of my life. Unfortunately the locality where I presently dwell does not look favorably on the accumulation of recyclables and other cultural cast-offs awaiting repurposing. But that's another story.

Also I would loooove to see more examples of that particular cracked die! I still find it hard to imagine it continued to be used. *Someone* back then must have observed, "If King George and his minions see we are making coins like that, they will laugh and say our new country is already breaking apart!"
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 Posted 01/19/2013  06:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mysilveryers,
NOW I remember where I saw it!

http://www.davidlawrence.com/invent...lotid/642281

David Lawrence Rare Coins:
Sold for $968.30 [plus 15%] April, 2009
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And yours:
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They appear to be identical.
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 Posted 01/19/2013  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysilveryears to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Identical indeed! One-and-the-same!
Thank you for posting that, matthew.
I paid quite a bit more than that for mine, but it's a grade up. And much prettier. Woohoo!

Now don't be shy, folks... step up and become a member of the '1799 Club' !!
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"... it's a grade up."

SEVERAL grades!

Save the info and use it to continue your research.

I am glad that I remembered. When I first saw it, I immediately thought of you.
Indeed, two sisters reunited after many years.
And I thought you would be pleased to find an identical example.



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Yes those are bifurcated letters.

It is a neat word and I DIDN'T make it up. The definition of the word is "to divide into two parts or branches". You can see how that applies at the bases of the uprights. I don't remember where I first saw it used but it may have been in Bolender's book on the early dollars where it appears for the first time on pages 21 and 22.
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 Posted 01/28/2013  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another, mysilveryears.

cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251219876025

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Hi, Cobey!
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Poopies, had to censor the last remark as we are a family friendly group.

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