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What exactly is a specimen set compared to a proof set and PL set?
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Specimen coins are usually those struck on specially prepared blanks/planchets and the coins inspected and handled with more care than coins for ordinary mint sets. The dies may also be prepared before striking to give a premier finish but not the frosted finish given to proof coins.

I can't answer the proof like PL sets as we don't have that classification in Australia and I am not familar with all the processes used for Canadian issues.
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Since 1997 all coins except for the 1 cent and the Loon dollar in Canadian proof sets are minted in 92.5% Sterling Silver. It is the only set that includes the Commemorative proof silver dollar as well as the aureate dollar. The proof set features mirrored fields with frosted designs. The Specimen set uses base metal coins with the fields being frosted instead.

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Specimen coins are minted on a parallel lined background, like coins on a Canadian bullion issue.
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Are specimen and PL just forms of UNC but not proof?
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Proof like and specimen coins are not business strikes so no. PL sets were available up to 1980. In 1981 they were sold as uncirculated sets. The coins in these sets were the best of the circulation coins and are handled as such in the mint by packaging them in pliofilm pouches like the US year sets.
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Are there any price differences between a PL coin and Speciman coin? I don't see separate listings in the Charlton. Wouldn't specimans grade higher than PL?

This is kinda confusing to me Canada has 3 different set. The US just has mint sets and proof sets. I'm not sure if there would be a market for a speciman set in the US. I guess I am not sure why there is a need for both a PL and Speciman set if they are going to both be of higher quality.

I must say collecting Canadian coins is quite challenging. There are so many varieties and sets and certain coins are only available within a certain set but not another.

Something I have noticed with Canadian coins is that there are so many circulating commemoratives. In the US we never had circulation Olympic coins or special anniversary coins with double dates like the twonie.
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Ahhh you forget your bi-centennial coins from 1976. PL prices for sets and individual coins are listed in the Collector Sets section of the Charlton Standard Catalogue (page 287 of the 2006 edition)

You also have your State Quarters with various mint marks, your new President series dollar coins, Jefferson commemorative nickles.......
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I guess what I meant to say was the US doesn't do coins with double dates to commemorate an anniversary for a specific coin issue, example would be a 10th anniversary like the twonie dated 1996-2006. We don't have double dated quarters 1932-1942 for the 10th anniversary of the Washington quarter. Kinda see where I am going with this?

Another difference with the Jefferson nickels and State Quarters is the fact the regular issue of those coins ceased instead of being produced alongside the commemoratives. Whereas in Canada, the Caribou quarters shows up in mint sets but not in circulation.
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There is a logical reason for the caribou to show up in sets though. If you have a dozen circulating commemoratives which one would you put in the set.
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