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My Altered Coin; You Be The Judge

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 Posted 01/06/2013  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To answer the post about this being a 'dodgy practice'.

I think it's an excellent idea for all of us to experiment with AT.

Because it leads to education, experience and knowledge.

Where it becomes 'dodgy' (meaning unethical and fraudulent) involves our ethics and whether or not we as individuals will SELL said AT'd item as a naturally toned Gem.
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01/06/2013 5:25 pm
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 Posted 01/06/2013  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ukee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I first had the idea to do this; I had no expectations.

Now I feel kinda uneasy about the whole thing. hmm
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 Posted 01/06/2013  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AZTAMT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing wrong with experimenting.
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 Posted 01/06/2013  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ukee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin in hand , looks really ugly. (my opinion)

It's shinny a bit; like a washed coin would be sparkling.

It doesn't look natural. It does have a sparkling rainbow effect when rotated in the light.



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 Posted 01/06/2013  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ukee figured I would give it a shot... I tried the super heat as I mentioned in another thread and it was gray dull white ..That I expected ..But when you said stuff around the house ? well the silver dollar is a melt anyhow so I tried some other stuff.no heat no harsh chemicals....heres what I got...

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 Posted 01/06/2013  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AZTAMT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The heat on Pennies has the same crazy rainbow colors as the original dollar pictured. Dont think it has the safe effect on silver as it does once the copper plating on the penny reacts to the flame.
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 Posted 01/06/2013  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AZ....copper and the base inside reacts differently.. I once put a penny in the woodstove to see what would happen.. It was on a log so just the inside heat.. after 5 minutes NO PENNNY hahahha .... BUt I know if you heat copper ( many years plumbing ) it does change to that rainbow type effect
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 Posted 01/06/2013  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ukee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that interesting.

I just tried to remove some of the toning and ended up with the most ugliest toning ever. MUTE!

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the toning was applied randomly , and without any pattern.

This is the complete opposite of some of the nicer coins available on ebay right now. The natural toning that's visually appealing has some pattern to it. Seems to be circular.

If I try again, I'm going to try and get the toning where I want it, and not just let it happen.

See what happens.



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 Posted 01/07/2013  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ukee, have you tried anything else on it ? Try soaking it in Ketchup The acid in the tomato might have a nice reaction ?
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 Posted 01/08/2013  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ukee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did artdio; I got mixed results.

Ok, you have to go look at this; it's 3 years ago but very interesting:
http://www.coinnews.net/2010/05/28/...ction-steps/


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Altered Coin - smooth

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Natural Coin - Crusty and flakey

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Altered Coin - smooth

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Natural Coin - crusty and flakey


Here's the natural coin I used. I can only guess that nobody would have any good reason to alter this coin. http://www.ebay.com/itm/14089994794...t_500wt_1271

I make no claims about this, it's just an observation. Experience is the rule, rather than the exception.

I have a couple more coins cooking and will post results. While I can see a difference in the toning finish, I wonder if the results would be consistent smooth like that all the time! hmm






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 Posted 01/08/2013  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally if I knew I had caused the toning there would be no way I could love it regardless of how exceptional it was.
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 Posted 01/08/2013  01:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ukee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree enworb;

This coin was different. It came to me toned. I removed as much as I could, then re-toned it.

The results are impressive; however I still see the flat smooth toning.

Well that's it for me guys , I'm done ruining coins.

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original tone - the red lines are the felt from the specimen case.

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original tone - the red lines are the felt from the specimen case.

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Re-toned

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Re-toned

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Altered - smooth

Bottom line; it's easily done and it's unethical and if you profit from it, then it should be fraudulent and illegal. IMHO



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