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Canada
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Here's my AT coin. I first tried a 50 cent coin, and it looked ok, somewhat naturally toned, then I applied electricity to it, and it all went to hell. It turned into what looks like dull grey plastic, and I was not able to reverse the effect. oh well. So here's the 10 cent coin I altered. (my 2nd attempt) Anyway, you be the judge. Does it look natural? It took 1.5 hrs. to finish. I did "not" use heat; just household goodies. I'm sure that the degree of the toning can be less intense, as the toning change is based on the amount of time expose to the altering conditions. original coin;  click for larger photo; original coin:  click for larger photo; So here is the coin on drugs; The question is : Does it look naturally toned? If it were a 1893 coin would it pass, would you question it.  click for larger photo;  click for larger photo; The first question would be, would it pass for natural toning? I know PCGS has coin sniffers to detect alteration, so I know it most likely would not get slabbed there. If it does look natural, (I'm not experienced enough to make that call) then this brings up many other topics. Things to consider cleaned coins being altered and put back on the market value of Patina coins Is it ethical does speeding up toning really matter, "they are speeding up the wine aging process" can altering the patina change the technical grade of the coinI think that years ago, coin grading was based on technical merit as well as visual merit in Canada. Grades were G, VG, F, VF, EF, Uncirculated, choice UNC, Brilliant UNC, something like that. Anyway, point is to see if this would fool you. Do you have enough knowledge to pin point altered coins. (I sure don't) |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I have had fun with freshly minted Australian copper nickel coins.
Heat them to red heat and plunge them into water. They turn out black.
Then I just put them back into circulation, just for the entertainment of other people!
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Valued Member
 Canada
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you're bad sel!!
you should counter stamp them when your done, "SEL"
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Quite convincing Ukee.
With a little practice.........?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Valued Member
Canada
81 Posts |
I think I change the technical grade of the coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United Arab Emirates
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Valued Member
Canada
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@ BLadd
can you elaborate?
I don't know what you mean by bruised?
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Valued Member
Canada
81 Posts |
after looking at the coin under magnification , I can say for sure;
I did not change the grade. All the scratches are still there.
the photo looks different.
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Pillar of the Community
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Moderator
 United States
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Don't like the look of the coin or the practice of artificial toning    , IMHO. John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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 John. Dodgy practice that should be discouraged completely! |
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Moderator
United States
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United we stand enworb  . John1 |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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looks "natural" to me.
then again I think even muted toning that happens over decades (silver toning to black as it oxidizes "naturally" excluded) is more the result of a contaminant being "non-naturally" introduced rather than something that should, by nature, happen to the majority of coins.
i think the whole term, "ARTIFICIAL" toning needs to be changed to "ACCELERATED" toning. (all toning is artificial to some degree)
Edited by Wade
01/06/2013 4:06 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
548 Posts |
Isn't this just the sort of thing that scares a lot of people away from any toning on coins?
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New Member
Canada
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I am fascinated by your toning experience. I have often thought about artificial toning but thought the subject was taboo. To me nothing is "taboo". I admire your courage. Very interesting. I have attempted artificial toning with poor results. I have a problem with toning in that when I attempt it I feel like I'm doing something wrong. I have never let this bother me much but obviously it does bother me. Your results look good to me. I am conflicted but I have spoken. I have not said much but I have spoken and that seldom happens.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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From your picture, I believe it ghas a very good chance at passing the 'toned' test.
I will admit, if this was an older coin, I may think it was naturally toned.
Or perhaps more important, if I thought it was atificially toned, it's a darned good one and would most likel;y be judges as 'Market Acceptable'.
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