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When The RCM Finally Does Melt Down The Cents...

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 Posted 01/06/2013  8:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
When the cents are finally withdrawn from circulation, will the US cents that I am sure are in there be melted down as well?
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 Posted 01/06/2013  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samsnate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think so. Doubt that the RCM is going to sort through them. They will likely be all thrown into the big pot.
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01/06/2013 8:32 pm
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you are probably correct that the RCM is NOT going to sort through them to pick out the US cents, Yes They will likely be all thrown into the big pot.

But The RCM will break US Law if they Melt Down The US Cents...we can't Melt Down The US Cents
Hope this does not start WWIII
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01/06/2013 8:49 pm
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 Posted 01/06/2013  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadiancoincollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
but I think they might have a sorting machine based on the metals in the pennies...
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Quote:
The RCM will break US Law if they Melt Down The US Cents

The U.S. law against melting U.S. Cents doesn't apply in Canada.
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 Posted 01/06/2013  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i doubt they will care.
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While I know that US currency is accepted at many, if not most, establishments in Canada, are US coins separated out regularly?

I travel in Canada often and have never been refused acceptance of US currency.

When I use my US currency I receive change in Canadian currency and coin but other than the occasional cent rarely do I receive US coins in change.
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 Posted 01/07/2013  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect they have the technology to separate them.

Steel ones can be separately magnetically.
Zinc versus copper could be done by weight (with copper being the heaviest).

The separation is mostly likely done by optical scanning like they do with nickels (where they keep all coins with mint marks ("P" and " RCM") in circulation
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01/07/2013 06:38 am
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Reply to n9jig

I have searched a number of boxes of Canadian pennies and estimate that anywhere from 5-10 % of a roll are American. Don't know about other denominations so cannot comment on those. I have been able to put together a respectable collection of circultion American pennies from 1920 to date (a few still missing)from coins I have found in searching boxes of pennies. Not the best quality of coins but interesting in itself, and I only paid a cent each for them.
There are other threads on this site that also talk about the number of American coins found in Canadian coin roll searching.
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 Posted 01/07/2013  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A lot depends on how close you live to the border, I'm right on the border and get a lot of US cent coins.
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I'm a couple hours from the border of Ontario. Canadian coins of quarters and lower are all commonly found here in our change and roll searches. I was getting about 80-90 Canadian cents in a $25 box of US cents.
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01/07/2013 9:35 pm
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 Posted 01/08/2013  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Having nothing to do right now, I was thinking about the removal of the 1c from circulation:

I may be wrong (and probably am) but I think the process worked quite well in Australia and New Zealand because they don't have a neighbor pumping millions of these coins into circulation every year.

I think that 5 years from now, when the bulk of canadian coins is removed from circulation we will have American cents circulating and being used regularly as change.

How the Mint and the Bank of Canada will deal with the issue, I have no idea. How the US will react is anyone's guess.
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 Posted 01/08/2013  06:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the US also discontinued the cent I think the transistion would be easier for removal.
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 Posted 01/08/2013  06:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OddCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
But The RCM will break US Law if they Melt Down The US Cents...we can't Melt Down The US Cents


It wouldn't be breaking the law if the RCM did it. You can't melt the US pennies in the US. In Canada, there's no law against it.
Wait... They would have to sort them anyway. Don't want any zincolns contaminating their penny-bullion!
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Don't want any zincolns contaminating their penny-bullion?
What?
1997 to present, Canada has been making zincqueens
Composition: 98.4% zinc, 1.6% copper plating

So in US we can melt down those 98% CU Canada penny, there's no law against it here
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01/09/2013 7:52 pm
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