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Marcianopolis/ Tyche

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There has been a lot of interest in Marcianopolis coins, also jw has been showing a few Tyche coins too!!
I have a all in one coin...

Trace- Marcianopolis
Caracalla...211 - 212 AD.
AE..
Ob. laureate and currassed bust right.
Rev. Tyche standing left holding patera and cornucopia..
27mm x 12.24g.



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 Posted 01/11/2013  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice--especially the details in the portrait and Tyche really stand out.
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 Posted 01/11/2013  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, very nice.
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Very nice coin. I wouldn't mind having one of those in the future.
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Provincials are always cool
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I have seen this obverse die somewhere before. I have a horrible feeling that it might be a fake. I need to do some research.
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i hope not fake, that would be to bad....it's very nice!
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 Posted 01/11/2013  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are these an obverse die match?

These are fakes that made it through reputable dealers.

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So, is this fake, my first fake....i picked this off vcoins a few months ago....
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I'd hope reputable dealers, particularly Vcoins, would filter out the copies.
But at least with Vcoins, dealers stand by a guarantee of authenticity.
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These would appear to be tricky ones and have fooled a few dealers. It was only when more die matches and impossible die combinations turn up that questions started to be asked.
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This has a heavy thick black patina, so this must be faked as well, I have found it on many of coin that I bought, could this be done with a lot of these patina coins? added after to increase the value of the coin..
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Hmm...the legends look different, but I see more similarities on the portrait than I'd expect.
The thicker patina on the left coin could be obscuring some things.

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The dies are identical. Any apparent legend differences are due to lighting etc.
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dang, sorry eng.

i just purchased my first coin off of vcoins a few days ago, so how do you procede from here when this type of thing happens?
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Oh no. Eng I am sorry Dealers on VCoins are very good about refunding for coins found to be fake after sale. Hope everything works itself out. maridvnvm, great job on spotting this. I just hate seeing this stuff out there and I am glad people out there like you can help spot this.
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