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So Fake It Isn't Even Funny

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 Posted 01/13/2013  7:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jcmworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My favorite auction for a fake today. This thing is so crappy it isn't even funny. Cast fantasy.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coin-Roman-...em25799963e6
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 Posted 01/13/2013  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It is surely not made of tin, this I know.


Wow - this guy really knows his stuff

Where are these moron bidders when I'm selling stuff - $36 dollars already.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm more surprised at the bidding. Are you kidding me?
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 Posted 01/13/2013  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its up to $41 - I hope that's not you bidding Bing
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01/13/2013 8:12 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2013  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah...pretty obvious that's a tourist curio, perhaps sold at the Colosseum in Rome?
Just for fun, here's the real coin to compare:

So-Fake-It-Isn't-Even-Funny

Real: Titus caesar, 69 â€" 79 Sestertius 80-81, Æ 25.92 g. Flavian amphitheatre (The Colosseum); on l., . Rev. IMP T CAES VESP AVG P M TR P P P COS VIII Titus seated l. on curule chair, holding branch and scroll; below, on either side, pile of arms. In field, S â€" C. C 400. BMC 190. RIC 184. Kent-Hirmer pl. 68, 239. CBN 189
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 Posted 01/13/2013  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fatman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's cool that you guys spotted this fake, but not being an ancient collector and trying to learn from this forum, what is fake about it or what should I be looking at?

Disregard, DVCollector posted his reply as I was typing my response.
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01/13/2013 8:24 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2013  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't believe there are 22 bids.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The top coin sold for over $400,000 at auction, its a beauty
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 Posted 01/13/2013  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I can't believe there are 22 bids


The 40 feedback bidder looks like a shill, 100% activity with this seller and was last seen bidding on a crossbow they were selling on the 3rd January.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby, I see that now--wow! It must be very rare.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, not super rare but certainly rare - and the reverse is about as Roman as it gets, surprisingly the Colosseum is not on that many coins. Vespasian started building it and it was ultimately finished by his son Titus.

I saw one in the British Museum - awesome looking coin

So-Fake-It-Isn't-Even-Funny


Edit to add picture.
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01/13/2013 8:51 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2013  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I figured that eye appeal and historical interest played a part in value.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcmworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was just cruising through ebay trying to find recent prices realized for some coins (to see if it was worth putting mine up) and I spotted it. I had to laugh, the fake is just so crappy. I feel bad for the buyer, who will get a nasty let down when they go to sell it. Maybe they'll sell it agian on ebay and keep the parade of fakes running. He might even make his $46 back from some other unwary soul.
A local curio is probably right. Some more junk to sell to the tourists.

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 Posted 01/13/2013  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I feel bad for the buyer, who will get a nasty let down when they go to sell it.
I'm going to try to email the buyer and tell them it's a bad fake.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billymac11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't it being perfectly round be one of the tip offs? It looks like an ancient coin superimposed over a modern, machined blank.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Wouldn't it being perfectly round be one of the tip offs?
Not always. While uncommon, some authentic ancients did get their strikes dead-center. It's usually the fields, the style, and the quality that are the tip-offs.
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