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Who Is This Emporer?

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Bing.


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Indeed Carus was almost bold, I have no idea why the engraver removed part of hair at the forehead at this way.


I guess ancient engravers also had bad days, maybe this was a hangover coin
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I like it when I'm right, but it happens so seldom (especially with my wife).
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It is often quite difficult to determine the emperor from the portrait alone at this peiod. Durnig these times of turmoil the mints needed to carry on minting coins during a regime change. The easiest way for them to do this was to continue to use the portrait and reverse types (and likely reverse dies) from the last running issue of the previous emperor and add new obverse legends. This was intended to be short term whilst they awaited the approved portrait of the new emperor and the new political message to be conveyed through the coinage was decreed. This leads specialists to look for these interesting transitional coins and pick them out.
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 Posted 01/17/2013  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting - hence the Probus similarities.
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During the Tetrarchy, the portraits on Folles lose a lot of their individuality and become homogeneous it becomes very difficult to tell emperors apart even within the same issue.
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Glad to see that I was right also for a change. BTW Ed this is a beautiful coin with excellent details.
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Thank you Ron, the coin didn't arrive yet it has to cross the Northsea.
Martin I think that's exactly what I wanted to say, Lugdunum is your speciality do you have any specimen related to this subject?
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This coin comes from the 1st Issue of Carus, has a portrait is considered to be one that matches the last issue portrait of Probus though the reverse is a different type to those in the last issue of Probus.

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This coin of Probus is from the 1st issue of Probus and has what is called a "Florian/Tacitus" portrait.

Who-Is-This-Emporer?

This early denarius of Septimius Severus has straight hair as they didn't know what he looked like.

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This is the first SS I've seen with straight hair.
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Very interesting thread.
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