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Not Sure Exactly What This Notgeld Is?

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 Posted 01/28/2013  6:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ark to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Recently I found this in a dealers junk bin and bought it because I had never seen a note or notgeld in this form (with the perforated token thing on the side) and I thought that was interesting.

I've been doing research to try and work out what it is exactly, but all I've been able to deduce is that its 10 Heller from Wilhering from 1921.
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Any help would be appreciated.
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 Posted 01/28/2013  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Presumably the 10h on the right means 10 heller.
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Wilhering is in Austria, so the currency unit it indeed "heller".

The phrases in the central section translate to "Valid until 1st Jan 921" and "Each of these notes is stamped prior to issue." - presumably a reference to the purple stamp on the back.
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I do have a bit of Austrian Ntgeld but can not find any reference to this. Try putting a scan into http://www.banknoteindex.com and see what comes up. If nothing does the owner of the site is very approachable. He predominately does German Notegeld but he may know something.

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Put the scans through that sites search by image features yielded no results. I've sent a message to the owner of the site, hopefully he can tell us what this note is.
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 Posted 01/29/2013  04:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Banknoteindex has 3 other 10 heller notgeld all from Hadersfeld, Austria.
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I have used this site to identify a lot of German notgeld. It has 10000+ world notes in the database but I guess this is a drop in the ocean when you consider the number of notes issued
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http://www.austriannotgeld.com/en/index.html

The above website is maintained by an Austrian woman who wrote a catalog of Austrian notgeld. Send a picture to her.
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Seems this is a combination of a notgeld note and a charity donation. The text in the upper right corner says: "Es steht jedem frei, diesen Beitrag zu leisten bzw. diesen Schein mit od. ohne diesen Abschnitt zu kaufen." That is, "Everybody is free to make this contribution, and to buy this note with or without this section."

Below: "Qittung (spelling error, should be Quittung ...) üb. ob. Beitrag für Kärntner Hilfe". That would be the donation receipt for some Carinthia Aid project. In the upper left corner you see "Von dieser Emission existieren 471 (nummerierte) Exemplare", ie. here are 471 numbered copies of this emission. (Not totally sure about that printed figure; it is hard to read for me because of the stamped number that goes across it.)

The odd thing is, Wilhering is not in Carinthia but in Upper Austria. So my guess is that this was a 10 heller notgeld note, but you could also pay 20 heller, and then 10 h would go to that aid fund. And while I'm guessing anyway :) the donation might have supported this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carinthian_Plebiscite Of course I could be wrong about how the piece was actually used ...

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@chrisild, Thanks for the lenghty interpretation. Really interesting back story you've come up with. I'm still awaiting reply from the notgeld experts that I sent emails to. Will post here if anything comes up just in case anyone is interested.
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