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 Posted 04/19/2007  05:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This vendor has inherited 15 "coins" and is selling them
as gold coins
Somebody from the German coinforum asked him whether
it is white or black chocolate
I think it has the typical look of bad goldplating
taking away the details of the strike

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gold-Muenzen-Kr...ck_W0QQitemZ120110567361QQihZ002QQcategoryZ4941QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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 Posted 04/19/2007  05:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This professional seller calls a ST Gaudens one ounce of gold
Can he really be a professional and that ignorent at the same time ?
The coin is in the partner capsule ( as if they were sold with capsules in 1924)

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOP-USA-Saint-G...OW_W0QQitemZ290106623050QQihZ019QQcategoryZ42726QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 Posted 04/20/2007  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sold in original mint wrapping

Did it really come in a Bronze Box ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...hlink:top:de

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 Posted 04/20/2007  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thundercoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am completely unfamiliar with these coins, but just from a quick look at the first krugerrand I would say there is a 99% chance that that is fake/plated, etc. I feel bad for anyone who buys this "gold".

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 Posted 04/20/2007  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm leaning towards it being a counterfeit. It really looks like it should have chocolate in it.
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Yeah, it does look chocolate. I had been telling a co-worker that I wanted some gold coins. She brought in a little bag of those chocolate coins. The $50 US gold was delicious!!
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 Posted 04/21/2007  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Offered as 999 gold

http://cgi.ebay.de/LIBERTY-GOLD-MUN...LD_W0QQitemZ200102355275QQihZ010QQcategoryZ34940QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 Posted 04/21/2007  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Australian gold Koala looks real but it never came in a bronze box.
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My american friend said the blue box has the inscription
Royal Australian Mint and that he does not know any other coins from that mint

The coin is probably real but why not the Perth Mint ?

Anyway it looks like something like the Franklin mint did or the US
treasury mint
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 Posted 04/21/2007  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The gold Koalas were minted in Canberra but the box is a bit of a mystery. Maybe it was a special presentation although my book makes no mention of it.
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so you are saying that St Gaudens is fake? or are you just making a statement about the seller calling it an ounce of gold
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 Posted 04/22/2007  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad Peso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am a newbie of sorts. How real are the 2 and 2.5 peso Mexican gold coins dated 1945. There are tons of them available it seems.
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quote:
so you are saying that St Gaudens is fake? or are you just making a statement about the seller calling it an ounce of gold


No I am making two statements
He makes it sound as if the coin is sold in its original holder
( Like Monnaie de Paris sells everything in an original holder with certificate )
And two he states the coin weighs one ounce in gold which has a professional seller he should know is not true

The coin is real enough
The two gimmicks to get a better price are not acceptable
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 Posted 04/22/2007  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He is registered in Canada
His nuggets are in the US
And he is selling on ebay Germany
Looks like a lot of ifs for a german buyer

http://cgi.ebay.com/5-Nuggets-Miner...da_W0QQitemZ120112099787QQihZ002QQcategoryZ34940QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 Posted 04/22/2007  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if it's even legal for a private citizen of any nationality to export raw gold (nuggets) from the US although it's such a tiny amount, it's likely nobody would care. I notice that while he gave the dimensions of the nuggets (2mm-5mm = max of 1/5" which is really tiny), he didn't give the total weight (I may have missed it).
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Like so many of these vendors he gives no weight but he knows they are between 20 and 22 carat
Now that is even kind of honest because some say 24 carat ain't mother nature obliging at 24 carat
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