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I have a 1952 set of mint state coins in a cardboard holder. I have been getting mixed reviews from more experienced collectors than I am I about them from comment that maybe they are from a roll and inserted in the cardboard but that would have to take place in 52 because the holder is definitely oldie style. I was informed that they were probably spec coins at the time of mint and that is how the mint sold them in 52.
The 50 cent piece looks like a ND accorindg to another source and may worth more than I thought. The dollar is a SWL type and the silver coins have a nice toning to them. They are definetly UNC for sure.
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Good quality photos needed.Most of the 1952 sets in cardboard holders were assembled from circulation coins by dealers.
should have used spell check the first time
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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02/04/2013 12:03 am
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So, are there legit PL in a card?
Or were specimens sold in a card?
Pre-1953 PL is something of a mystery.
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2011 Charlton Standard Catalogue (page 222)...
"1953 saw the first use of the white cardboard six-coin holder that in 1954 became the package for public sale of brilliant uncirculated sets. The holder with the coins included was wrapped in a cellophane jacket. The finish on the coins offered acquired the name proof-like."
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I will try and upload pics for review. Thanks
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Yeah, Charlton confuses things. 1953 saw the introduction of the cardboard holder, that would become used for PL sets in 1954. So, what was it used for in 1953? Non-public PL sets? Hand outs but not for public sale?
It seems clear there were PL in 1953, but considering how valuable they are, there must have been few.
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Not sure if this right format for a pic of the 52 set  |
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Even from afar, with that first image, those coins are business strikes, that someone put into a card. Early PL and specimen coins are like blinding mirrors....
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This subject is probably one of the least understood areas of Canadian Numismatics. It would take pages to properly explain the goings on of the RCM collector coin program of the post war era (1946-1953). |
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Thank you all for input. I am happy with the coins as they are and will enjoy them for the time I am custodian and pass them on to my grandkids.
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@54dollarcoin: Pages of info would be great.
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I second dialog_gvf's motion... :) 54dollarcoin, I would greatly appreciate reading any information on this subject... I've been doing a lot of research in that area and not finding much of anything that's either authoritative or definitive... it definitely seems to be one of the more mysterious areas, and somewhat confusing given reference sources that relate to proof sets and specimen sets being issued. I've got a 1958 Charlton Catalogue in hand that mentions "proofs of all denominations but the cent were struck and issued in 1870"... and that in 1908 and 1911 "1000 proof sets were struck and sold in cases in each year"... and that "1,295 proof sets were struck and sold in cases in 1937"... I've always thought that these were designated as "Specimen", at what point did the terminology change...? I know that there was a previous post here regarding Charest 2009 catalogue indicating that there were RCM sets issued in holders for 1951 and 1952... I'm guessing these were pretty rare because I've never seen one up for sale on ebay. Also, population reports show a number of certified examples of '51 & '52 PL coins... And then there seems to be a running debate as to some 1953 sets being designated as "PL" and others as "Specimen"...? HELP... :) Take care, and Have a Great Tuesday! cameron93 |
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Though specimen sets were produced in most years by the RCM,they were available to the public only in 1908,1911,and 1937.Early collectors called the specimen coins "proof" but the mint insisted they were "specimen" because they were not up to par with London struck proofs. The mint did not sell coins to the public until 1949 when their Numismatic division was established.Before that uncirculated sets were sold by the Bank of Canada for face value plus postage,and consisted of circulation coins pulled from bags. The first PL coins were struck in 1949 and only in 25¢,50¢,and$1.From then `til `52 only the dollar was struck in PL in every year,the 25¢ and 50¢PL strikes were only produced in certain years. Beginning in 1953 all denominations were struck in PL.Sets came in little boxes with coins in plio pouches,as well as in the plio wrapped cardboard holders.The 1953 sets were a mix of circulation strikes and PL strikes,it was random,and any set could contain from 0 to 6 PL strikes. In 1954 sets were issued in the cardboard holder with plio wrap and contained 6 PL coins(usually).They continued like this `til the next change in 1961. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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02/05/2013 02:03 am
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So, does that mean there are no 1952 PL sets? Or that that they would be, at best, $1, 50c, 25c PL and rest business strikes?
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There are no '52 PL sets.There were no 1¢,5¢,or 10¢ PL strikes `til `53.
PL sets containing one or more circulation strike coins can be found in all years up to and including 1960,though the biggest crap shoot was in '53.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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