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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Since there is no numismatic value here, verifying the diameter/thickness/weight will determine if it's gold and establish a value. It looks like a dug piece.
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Valued Member
Canada
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If it turns out to be a non-gold fake, I'll buy it. I collect strange things like that.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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So do others of us here on the forum. :-)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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yuck! melt it if its real
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: It looks like a dug piece. I have never seen a dug gold coin look this bad. They come out of the ocean looking better than this. The guy who brought it to me said it was black when he found it in a box of trinkets. He's the one who polished it. Maybe the black came from the copper. The pitting looks like it was cast?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It could be a spielmark or other type of counter token, they would typically use some design elements from contemporary coins combined with nonsensical or foreign coin elements to distinguish it from the real thing. It could also be a contemporary counterfeit of a quarter eagle. Unfortunately, there is not enough detail left to positively ID it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It has the characteristics of a $2.50 Lib. Since it's going to be valued on it's metallic content, why not just weigh it and measure the diameter? It should weigh about 4.2g and be 18mm in diameter.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Well, the value of the metallic content would be about 2 cents worth of brass 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The pitting looks a lot like corrosion which would make sense if the coin was made of copper or some alloy of it. Whatever it is, I doubt it was a genuine quarter eagle.
Edited by D0ubl3Eagle 02/07/2013 7:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: It should weigh about 4.2g and be 18mm in diameter.
Second sentence of my post describes the weight as being 2.2 grams. It's very worn and thin. Also, it lacks that hefty feeling. Even with a small amount of gold in appearance, there's still that weighty feeling in your hand and this piece just doesn't have it. I have ex-jewelry coins and they test just fine with the acid  . I know this piece is fake or possibly a gold plated token, like previously mentioned. When you observe this coin at arms length, it looks just like a Liberty Quarter Eagle worn into submission. I'm giving it back to my seller. He left the piece for me to investigate. I never gave him any money. I know better. The worst part is, he didn't believe the first two people who tested it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well, I think it's more interesting than a genuine Quarter Eagle.
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Pillar of the Community
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philadelphian,
If I tell the customer "it's not gold. Oh, and by the way, how much do you want for it?" He'll panic and not sell. I know this guy. I don't think I'd want to put more than 5 dollars in the piece.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If he seems to be the sort who will reject all offers until he finds someone who thinks it's as valuable as he does, convincing him to part with it at a fair price might just save someone else from buying a pig in a poke.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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philadelphian, This customer brings me really good collectibles and the occasional coin. About 99 percent of the time he gives me incredible deals. However, if he believes the world is flat then he's not going sailing anytime soon  . If he is willing to sell me this train wreck, who's buying? What is going to be the offer? I won't buy it unless it's cheap or I already have it sold.
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