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A Glossary Of E**y Dodgy Coin Seller Jargon

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Last year I won a coin Lot on "that sight whose name begins with an e and ends with a y".
I live in London, the seller was based in Swansea, Wales.
The coins were to be sent by Recorded Delivery.

After waiting two weeks, the coins had not arrived.
Finally the seller replied to my request for a tracking number, which ought to be supplied when a package is sent Recorded.
The seller stated that they could not find the receipt and that they had "just moved house" and it must have got lost in the commotion of moving.
They were miffed that they had to refund me.

On Sunday I won a Lot of four coins, the seller had more auctions going on until yesterday, I won one more coin then.

I sent a message to the seller if it could be posted with the four I had already won.
The seller replied that if the auctions of the coins had ended days before, they would have already been posted.
So, thinking they were in the post, I went ahead and paid of for the coin, to be sent on its own.
I explained that as the four coins were not Marked As Dispatched I thought they were being held until the final auction.

The seller replied that " I am sorry I didnt put they were dispatch but iam moving house and I have been so busy"

This reminded me of my previous experience, and I now wonder if I will see these coins.

So, I wonder, is "moving house" a form of Jargon dodgy e**y sellers use?

Because, who the heck would arrange an auction of high end coins whilst moving house, to, I guess, a different locality, and so no idea about the postal services in a new locality?

Has any other members come across such obtuse and vague phraseology used by a seller either directly to them or in a listing?

Should we create a list, to serve as an eduction for would be/newbie buyers?

Here is my two contributions:

1) Moving House = a)I could not give a Fig about providing you with the tracking information on the coins, the receipt has gone in the bin along with the Lottery Tickets I bought.
b) The coins did not sell at a price I liked, and so will not send them to you. I will Fob you off about how I am "moving house", you will not buy from me again, and a few months down the line I will relist the coins and am sure I will get more money for them.

2) What You See Is What You Get = I think, in fact I am sure this coin is fake, but I do not care about rules and hope someone will buy it off me. I do not expect to have to refund you if it turns out you realise it is a fake.

P.S. to members outside of Blighty (the UK) Dodgy = Very Dubious
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For me, sellers refusing to post items because they didn't get enough for them happens quite regularly. I bought a medal recently, cost £15, worth an easy £100 if listed correctly( instead of "old coin"). I received a message from the seller saying that the medal got severely damaged on the way to the PO. I can't figure out how you could 'severely' damage a coin in a jiffy bag on the way to the post office?
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3) '***RARE-WOW***' = Not rare, infact probably pretty common and almost certainly priced 4 times more than its worth.
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4) 'From an old collection' = Almost certainly not 'from an old collection' indeed more likely to be fake than anything else.
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If a person was moving why would they have an auction? Wait until after the move. People do all sorts of things to scam others.
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sellers refusing to post items because they didn't get enough


This has happened to me a few times also, most recently with a Volousian Viminacium, a Lugdunum alter (Vespasian?) and another coin whos attribution escapes me.

Won the 3 coin auction for about £2.50! Paid the French sellers extortionate postage of about £7, un-tracked, un-recorded and un-insured (according to the seller), wanted about £12 for recorded. Needless to say, three weeks later, nothing, contacted seller who refused refund as I did not pay extra for insurance.

Obvious he didn't post it but odd he tried the old 'your not covered' routine as I have a lot of feedback so not a noob in the way Paypal works. Needless to say got money back easy enough but still wanted the coins

Also had a bad experience with a German seller over postage. Auctions did not state combined postage so I mailed him and he said something along the lines of 1st lot full price, subsequent ones 50c each, great I thought. Won about 5 cheap lots but then the seller refused to send me a correct invoice despite repeated requests, in the end I had to either not pay and face a 'strike' or stump up 20 euros (4x5) for postage, paid the postage in the end
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paid the postage in the end


Oh - and I paid separately for each item so had 5 opportunities to ruin his DSRs
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'Cleaned and Uncleaned' - I tried cleaning a few but completely screwed them up so put them at the bottom of this pile to try and hide it so that the pile looks bigger.

'estate auction' - I bought a load of coins and want them to seem like they have provenance (they often include the... a guys name).
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Paid the French sellers extortionate postage of about £7-bobbyhelmet


More often than not, the Continental e**y world seems to be an odd parallel universe where such basic things as a decent postage price and combined postage does not exist.
I remember last year browsing the French e**y site for Roman coins and found the postage prices high.
Checking the "La Poste" website for the cost of posting a 6 gram letter to the UK, it was around 1 Euro 80 cents, whilst the seller asks 5 Euros.
And it does not seem e**y gives a Fig about this.


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I tried cleaning a few but completely screwed them up so put them at the bottom of this pile to try and hide it-BenByfield
A Classic!
More often than it that stuff is a waste of time.
Though there is one seller whose user name begins with a "T" and ends with a "o", with high Feedback, but when I had bought a pile of low grade AE 4th century Roman coins, the ones I got were mostly different to the ones in the photo, only three matched, the rest were Slugs.
At least he did not bother with the "hide the Slugs under a few Goodies" trick.
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unsearched: thoroughly searched
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02/08/2013 11:23 am
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unsearched: thoroughly searched


By many people - the finder, the buyer, the distributer and the ebay seller.
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