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Did I Identify This Coin Correctly?

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 Posted 02/10/2013  7:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add silver00lt to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So today while sorting through my grandfathers coin collection I paused and started browsing through my dads to see the countries he has visited, etc.

Came across this coin that my mother bought in Israel and she stated she paid nearly nothing for it and that I could keep it. She remembers it being from Roman time from what the interpreter said, but this was back in late 1990s.

So I just typed in what I read on the coin and pulled up that it is a Denarius, struck 77-78 AD in Rome. So this is NOW the oldest coin in my collection. She purchased it in a 2x2 which was dirty and staples not how I liked it so I just put it in a new 2x2.

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Denarius, struck 77-78 AD in Rome.
Obv.: T CAESAR VESPASIANVS, Titus head, laur., r.
Rev.: IMP XIII (ex.), sow l., with three piglets
RIC² 986 (C); RIC¹ 220; L 227, 228, 229; O; P 203
Picture: Classical Numismatic Group

My actual photos(dig. microscope has YET to arrive in mail )
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 Posted 02/10/2013  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silver00lt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A site is selling one of these pretty much worn down with head BARELY visible for $50.

I have no clue how much this is actually worth. Nothing has showed a picture with a actual price range on it. :(
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 Posted 02/10/2013  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are 5 examples for sale with pictures and prices on a reputable ancient coin dealer site.

http://www.vcoins.com/en/Search.asp...OnSale=False

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 Posted 02/10/2013  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silver00lt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whew....looks like I need to pay a visit to someone to try and make sure this is a authentic coin.
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VCOINS is my 'go to' site for a first step in authentication and visual identification, as well as finding out what the current market is doing for a particular ancient type.

One of the more trusted places from which to buy ancient coins.

Vespasian's denarii often have retrograde legends.

From the picture only, this coin looks OK.

Curiously, one of the first things that I do to authenticate an ancient coin, is to try to bend it in my fingers. To my knowledge, no ancient Greek or Roman coin is made of lead, or has a lead core.
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 Posted 02/11/2013  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a nice coin and appears to be 100% legit.
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 Posted 02/11/2013  03:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silver00lt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was unsure of the cap between the lettering and the bottom left hand corner of the head compared to coins I found online. Tried bending it and nothing.
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Generally tourists get 'taken'. Thats what they are there for. Paying almost nothing doesn't mean it is fake. But in Israel the face of Titus just might be recognizable by enough people to be the ideal tourist 'swindle' item. The picture is good but not good enough to determine anything. Very possibly a nice casting.
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It looks legit to me from the pics. Having said that, weight, size, and pics out of the plastic & pics of the edges will help:)
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that is nice silver, your mom has great taste in coins!
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 Posted 02/11/2013  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silver00lt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I get the microscope in I will get more pictures, measurements and weight in grains. Kinda irritated that microscope was shipped to Arizona instead of my house. There is no excuse for it... **(No Zip Files Allowed)** s are COMPLETELY different so I am not happy. Friend of the family who kno .s was with her at the time I contacted him to see if he remembers anything.

Also gotta think of the region...this is the middle east its not like the vendors are seeking a fortune in their sales. Just to get by for the day....at the same time it could be a simple new cast.
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 Posted 02/11/2013  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's a casting it's a very good one. From your pictures I don't see anything that would indicate that to me.
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Weight is in grains. Sorry do not have a grams scale. I reload so best scale I have is in grains.
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It looks like it will be another 3-4 days before I get my microscope in so I hope these pictures are good enough for you guys. The caliper is calibrated and zeroed in so that is a true and accurate measurement.
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The coin is 3.220 grams. Sorry I forgot my scale actually went into grams. -face palm-
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