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 Posted 02/11/2013  8:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add macdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is toning a natural process and does it increase value of coins that have it?
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 Posted 02/11/2013  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It can both increase or decrease the value depending on how it looks. Some types are highly sought after while others are passed by. Some collectors love it some dont like it.

Sorry for the vague response but its one of those things were you cant really give a specific answer without seeing the toning in question.
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 Posted 02/11/2013  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is AT (Artificial Toning) and NT (Natural Toning). AT is often frowned upon by collectors and often easy to tell. People can artificially tone coins with chemicals or heat, etc. Natural toning usually brings a premium because people will often pay more than what the coin is worth for the pretty colors. Natural toning can also be very attractive or unattractive. Obviously more attractive toning will be worth more, and if it is ugly toning, the coin may not get much interest.
Toning is a wide subject because overall it is subjective. Some like it and some don't.
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 Posted 02/11/2013  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
murrellington has nailed it on the head. Couldn't say it any better.
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 Posted 02/15/2013  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add legouge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
However, if it is toned, do not attempt to clean it. It will considerably lower its value.
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 Posted 02/17/2013  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nightparrot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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There is AT (Artificial Toning) and NT (Natural Toning). AT is often frowned upon by collectors and often easy to tell. People can artificially tone coins with chemicals or heat, etc.


What should we look for when trying to distinguish AT from NT? There are some crazy colours out there that have been graded and slabbed.
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one thing that has stuck in my mind from an ANA class by Robert Campbell on toning. He said natural toning will always follow nature, the order of the rainbow (spectrum of visable light) certain colors will never touch eachother. red to yellow to green to blue to violet. Here is a good link to learn more about AT and see some amazing "monster" toned dollars.

http://www.jhonecash.com/coins/tonedmorgans.asp

as to increasing the price? Would you believe an 1881-S Morgan in MS63 at over $2000? Yes people will pay for great natural toning.
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 Posted 02/17/2013  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PolishSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I prefer a toned coin only if its pre 1900. I see many rainbow toned coins on ebay, some of which are from the 50's and 60's, and I know they were probably artificially toned. It might look pretty but I rather have natural toning than manufactured.

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 Posted 02/17/2013  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Always a tuff subject. So many people like, dislike, hate, love, etc toned coins. And as to AT or NT, that too is not easy. So many people tone coins purposely and some are so good, the best collectors can't tell. And too just what really is AT? If you place a new coin in the dirt, dig it up in ten years, find it is now all toned, is that AT or NT? Same with leaving a coin outside on a window sill. In a few years it may well look toned or rotten away. But if toned, is it AT? You can have some fun using the search tab at the top for AT, NT, Toning, tarnishing, etc.
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 Posted 02/18/2013  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kg5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh Dear what a mind field!

I just decided not to buy any thing until I get a good feel for issues like this one.

Some ebay research coming up!
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I prefer an un toned coin.
However, if you remove the toning, you usually introduce a detraction to the value.
That detraction to the value is known as 'cleaning', and is almost always obvious.
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 Posted 04/11/2013  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually I just bought an orange toned Washington quarter and in the process of having it certified. Will post pictures after I get it back, but here is the coin I bought off of ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20073505595....m1439.l2649
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