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1884 Vicky Cent Obverse 1 Vs. Obverse 2 What Do You Think?

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Picked these two up at a local dealer for $6 a piece and they seem to be in pretty good shape. Does either of these look like the Obverse 1 variety? And what do you think these would grade out at? First set of photos is what I suspect is the Obverse 2 and the second set of 3 is what I think is Obverse 1. Thanks for any helpful info you guys can provide.


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Obverse 1?


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All the coins showing are obverse 2's
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Nice coins! I agree with papeldog that these are not Obverse #1 - you can tell by the way Victoria has a dimple in her chin for both of them. Obverse #1 has a smooth chin. You can see a great comparison of the various obverses at http://www.piczo.com/Dan-in-Crystal-Lake
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That's a great reference WildYapok, thanks gentlemen for the insight.
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Another way to tell is to look at the N in regina obverse 1 N's have a long foot on the N
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And the 3rd marker is whether the tip of the crown impinges on the bead at the top. If the bead is a full circle and not "cut" by the crown tip, it's a #1. If the tip makes the bead even slightly less than a perfect circle, it's a #2. The 4th marker is where the neck truncation comes to a point. On a #1, the neck truncation will end/almost touch the bead directly above the C in Canada. On a #2 (like these pics) the truncation will end just to the left of that ... between the two beads. If you look at them side by side, there is a big difference and that's the marker easiest to see from crappy ebay photos. A #1 also "usually" has a D/C at about 6:00 on both the Obv and Reverse.
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My go to marker is the bead and crown, confirmed by the N.
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