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1859 Canadian Brass Cent?

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 Posted 02/25/2013  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Around 10% zinc, with little or no tin.
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 Posted 02/27/2013  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darutis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
okanyway I did not get a clear answer on coin diameter?I do not think that the Victorian large cent pros. used the caliber.If brass known, maybe 20So,how many in the world larger then 25.4mm?
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If you really want to know, it will only cost you postage (both ways) for me to test it for you in my lab with the XRF. Read my profile, and most members here, including the moderators, can vouch for me.
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SPP-Ottawa thanksbut I got a response from the NGC
93+%cu
4% Sn
1% zn
weight light due to wear
And, again, no response on the diameter
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These coins probably were struck on different coin presses. I am guessing that all of the collars were not all perfectly 25.4 mm. and the planchet expanded into a slightly larger collar upon striking.
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SPP-Ottawa you have analyzed the Bank of Canada's National Currency Collection 1859 brass cent. It is less than 90% copper, more than 10% zinc and contains no tin.
Tell me, what was the weight of the coin and diameter?
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Darutis ... I finally found my caliper and thought that I would give you the diameters of 10 random 1859 bronze cents. I have at least 600 in albums and another 300 or so loose to look at some more. Here is what I found in a completely random stack of 10:
the 10 ranged from a low of 26.67mm (1) to 27.94mm (2) with most in the centered (within .05 mm) at 27.56mm. As Bosox said, the planchets were ordered at 25.4 mm and the collars for the dies had to be a little bigger. When the when the hammer die met the anvil die, then planchet had to expand due to the pressure; hence the larger diameter than the 25.4 start.
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