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Tarnish Vs Tone? (Silver)

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 Posted 05/14/2014  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...a Morgan dollar that exhibits (in side-by-side photos with a second, brighter coin) what appears to be a sort of bluish color... I have not seen a Morgan with this appearance, and think of it as 'tarnish' rather than toning. Is this something that, e.g., PCGS would remove when restoring the coin?

To the best of my knowledge (and someone with actual experience with the conservators may correct me) but I don't think they "repair" ugly tarnish. Without seeing pics it's difficult to judge, but there could well be collectors out there that would prefer your "blue" coin to an untoned example.

The other concern I have with "blue" coins is the possibility of some fool having used chlorine-based bleach to attempt to induce artificial toning. Bleach forms an ugly layer of silver chloride, rather than silver sulfide, and silver chloride is notorious for not coming off without aggressive cleaning; regular anti-tarnish agents don't touch it.

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Nothing personal SAP but Australia is a killer on P&H from the U.S.

I don't think they'd have liked you posting hazardous chemicals to me, either. They're a bit fussy about which chemicals can go through international post and how they're packaged. I've tried to order some of BadThad's magic juice a couple of times, but nobody will ship it internationally.
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I've tried to order some of BadThad's magic juice a couple of times, but nobody will ship it internationally.


You can order on ebay and use the global shipping program but shipping to AU is expensive no matter how you slice it. If you do buy using ebay, drop me a message so I know it's you and I'll include something extra to take some of the sting out of the shipping.
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Carl ... I like to send one CCF person my new Coin Care (JPL) product. If you send me your address privately I wll send you out a bottle FREE for evaluation. Since you are always CRITICAL of most coin cleaning products. I WANT your critical evaluation. Nothing personal SAP but Australia is a killer on P&H from the U.S.. You were #2 on my list.

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Tell us more about your product John. What does it do?
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I don't think they'd have liked you posting hazardous chemicals to me, either. They're a bit fussy about which chemicals can go through international post and how they're packaged. I've tried to order some of BadThad's magic juice a couple of times, but nobody will ship it internationally.

IF Thad was a nice guy he would simply purchase plane tickets on a private plane and fly you some pesonally.

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Carl ... I like to send one CCF person my new Coin Care (JPL) product. If you send me your address privately I wll send you out a bottle FREE for evaluation. Since you are always CRITICAL of most coin cleaning products. I WANT your critical evaluation. Nothing personal SAP but Australia is a killer on P&H from the U.S.. You were #2 on my list.

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Sorry but giving out personal addresses over the internet is something I really avoid. Even with email, I just avoid.
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 Posted 05/28/2014  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your jewelry piece was patina'ed - it can happen naturally through the atmospheric contents or through a quicker chemical change (NNasty stuff, you really don't want to know what's in it). Tarnish is just oxidation, but more specifically it is sulfurization. The effect is more pronounced when the alloy has more copper in it.
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Tell us more about your product John. What does it do?

And how is it different from the other product that has been on the market for years called Coin Care?
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Sorry but giving out personal addresses over the internet is something I really avoid. Even with email, I just avoid.


And those dangerous coin forums....watch out Carl!
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