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 Posted 02/26/2013  5:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Picked this up today hoping (and thinking) it had been found in my home town, sadly after speaking with the seller it hadn't

Was sold with only this pic but it looks very 'Britannic' to me, at £2.37 it would be hard to be disappointed whatever it turns out to be. Allectus perhaps? Feel free to guess yourselves!

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An ebay BIN for £1.74, huh

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Not in great shape but I'm guessing Julia Maesa coins are usually more than £3.49 shipped, even in this condition.

Finally feeding my obsession for Lyon Tetrarchs I added this coin to my small but growing collection:

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Always on the look out for these but also the odd misalignment in the obverse legend between 'FL VAL' and 'CONSTANTIVS' interested me, I have seen this on a few of these coins but not to this degree. Probably means nothing but its nice to get to know the 'quirks' of the people who cut these coins.
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 Posted 02/26/2013  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bobbyhelmet, how do you tell it's Lyon?
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 Posted 02/26/2013  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinage123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great purchases BH
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 Posted 02/26/2013  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice pick ups Bobby.
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bobbyhelmet, how do you tell it's Lyon?


Lyon started producing these coins in 295 with mintmarks, LA and LB, then for an unknown reason (almost certainly something to do with the invasion of the Britannic Empire) they stopped for a while before again returning to mintmarked coins. The Lyon style known in the earlier LA and LB coins is clear in this unmarked series and continues into the later marked coins.

A Lyon LB coin of Galerius showing the similar style:
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 Posted 02/27/2013  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jamesicus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very well explained Ian. These Lugdunum early reformed folles are indeed precursors of the "Invasion coinage" and the subsequent London mint folles. They are rare coins.

Here are a couple of my examples:


Early reformed follis - RIC VI, Lugdunum, Group I, (ii), LA or LB, c. 295 - No. 2a, DIOCLETIAN.
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IMP C DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG ............................. GENIO POP -- VLI ROMANI
LA in exergue




Early reformed follis - RIC VI, Lugdunum, Group I, (ii), LA or LB, c. 295 - No. 6, CONSTANTIUS.
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CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES ............................. GENIO POPV -- LI ROMANI
LB in exergue



Note: RIC catalogues these coins under the LUGDUNUM mint - the ancient Roman name for modern Lyon - although the latter name is mostly used in the RIC textual reference.

James

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Top one looks to be Allectus! Great pickup. Whats the reverse like?
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 Posted 02/27/2013  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not in hand, only obverse picture used to sell it.
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good bargain hunting BH!
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Two of these arrived today - The first was Allectus with a Leatitia reverse and minted in Camulodunum with a CL mintmark. Codition is not great but maybe a bit of wax could help it.
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The Maesa is pretty good and better than the initial pictures suggested.

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No idea whats going on with the 3rd coin, seller seems to have gone AWOL and I cant pay for it. It was not an ebay buy and is proving a problematic and slow transaction
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