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Danzig 1927 Forgery - High Quality

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 Posted 03/04/2013  02:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The proof and business hubs were slightly different with the proof hub having a slightly larger separation between the star and the top of the shield.

The business strikes have a clearly closer orientation which is effected by the depth of set on the hub.

A working die is produced from a hub or master die. In this case the features involved - the point on the shield and the star both have sides that taper outward tword each other. The deeper the image is the closer the points appear to be.

Therefore some difference in the apparent gap can occur simply by the way the working die was hubbed or the coin was struck.

Those variations are the normal range of tolerance that has to be understood to authenticate a coin.

But the features I was using are clearly different and have NOTHING to do with hubbing differentials. What I was poimting out were significant differences in style and designs.
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 Posted 03/04/2013  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bogdanjovi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please do not get me wrong, I did not contested in any way the demonstration of the non authenticity. I was just curios about that difference I noticed (studying your quiz, let's say).
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bogdanjovi I was not upset at all by the question. I just wanted to make sure that the reason why the star point position was not a great indicator was very clear.

Usually when one person asks a question like that it means 10 have not but wonder the same thing.

I commend you for checking the situation closely you should always challenge the "facts" to make sure that they stand up to scrutiny.

I know I can come across very authoritatively at most times. I have been doing this so long that I sometimes forget I am speaking to many people who view this material as brand new.

Sorry if my answer made you feel uneasy at all.

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No problem at all, sir. I was not referring to the star - shield distance as a criteria for identifying a fake. But I thought it was a variant not related to proof/circulating status. I must said it is the first time I run into such a clear exposure of a forgery regarding a modern coin.
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