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 Posted 03/03/2013  10:36 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add adfletch to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I think this is fake but can anyone confirm please.

One side is civitas london with a cross with 3 pellets. The other is a rose with rosa EDG. Any ideas please , Its about 18mm wide.

thanks
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I think

is appropriate
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Upload images of both sides of the coin along with weight and diameter
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This is a modern reproduction, but the two sides don't belong together. The rose side ("Elizabeth, by the grace of God, the rose without a thorn") is paired with the reverse of an older coin? And it looks like the letter K has been stamped into the reverse (I'm guessing to stand for the German word for COPY).
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Found this pic from a metal detecting forum, of a reproduction coin identical to yours. Also with a CIVITAS LONDON reverse, but a somewhat different one:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/a...e-help-2.jpg

Actually, it and yours read I DG , for IACOBUS DEI GRATIA, so was meant to be a coin of James I.
Here's the whole thread started by the poor guy who found this in the ground:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/w...ke-help.html
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03/03/2013 1:30 pm
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Phil can you direct me to an image of an Edward VI Rosa 1/2 penny if any such animal exists
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Some on this page:
http://hammered_farthings.tripod.co...gs/index.htm

So, do you think this was meant to be a copy of an Edward VI halfpenny?
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No - I was just looking at an old thread https://goccf.com/t/79477 and it seem to mention the above but I cannot find any similar coins in Spink but now you have clarified its IDG not EDG it doesn't matter - thanks
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Was walking in The cotswolds for a week and when I got back home and emptied boot of car this was all that was left. Had a lot of fun trying to ID it but to good to be true for it to be worth anything Thanks for all your help
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