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Edward VI Shilling About 1553

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I've seen in a car boot sale, an Edward VI Shilling - Fine silver issue (about 1553) and I'm wondering if it's genuine.

Can you tell me what one should weigh (in grams), please ?
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I believe the shilling for that period was about 4.6grams, also I would tread carefully at carboot sales, I have purchased at them myself, but never anything of great value, although about 7 years1 ago at a boot sale I did buy a babymilk tin of 50s-60s crap coins of halfcrowns, pennys, shillings, and brass thrupennys, all the usual stuff of no great value, I think I paid about £5 for something like 150 coins, it wasn't until some 6mths later when I looked at them I discovered 2 full and one half sovereigns mixed in with them and a silver 8 reales, the latter I later sold for £250 on ebay, and I still have the sovereigns.
Actually I have just remembered it was actuall a Silver 20 Reales 1808 with Joseph Napoleon
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It is a very pleasant coin after the previous debased coinage.There are plenty on ebay at present (very common).I would study these.Being a common issue I have yet to see a good copy of one.
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 Posted 03/06/2013  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BostonJo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think greeniejim is wrong.

Henfrey's English Coins says that the shilling weighed 96 grains which is about 6.22g.



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I was having a guess, I may well be wrong, I actually now think it is 4.38gramms, but Spink say the 1551-53 issue was 3DWT (Pennyweight), this would equate to 67.5 grains, a pennyweight is equal to 22.5 grains or 1.46 gramms, so 3dwt should equal 67.5 grains or 4.38gramms or.

but it is very possible I am reading this wrong, perhaps someone can explain the 11oz.3dwt, I am not sure what the 11oz part is, I assume it's something to do with the silver content in £1 of silver
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Thanks, BostonJo.

I did not think of Henfrey.
I have the CF Keary edition of 1885, I don't think I've read it for about 40 years.

On p185 he says that crown down to 3d denominations were struck in silver of fineness 11 oz 1 dwt of silver to 18dwt of alloy; 92.08% fineness.

11 oz 3 dwt would be 92.92%.

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I bought a Judean Widow's Mite of Alexander Jannaeus of Judea, that I found amongst a large group of IHC's a country car boot sale a few weeks ago. very cheaply. You have to know what you are buying in a situation like this, and the same applies to the Edward V1 Shilling.
Fortunately, I have had a couple of them for over 20 years, so I knew very well what I was looking at.

Since I collect World coins all cultures from the invention of coinage and have done so for nearly 40 years, I would have jumped at that Edward V1 shilling, if the price was right! If you are satisfied with the coin, you just rely on your 'gut' feeling as regards price, if you don't have price references with you.
The more experience you have, the better chance you have of winning.

With car boot sales, I just keep an open mind on ANYTHING, not just coins, and I never go hunting specifically. I go just to enjoy the show. Happens more often when you are a member of a classic car club.
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