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Ben Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 4208 Posts	Posted 03/06/2013 3:49 pm A cull which I couldnt recognise - some box like design? Scrapes on the obverse bust? I decided to investigate and found an overstrike! My first! Fel Temp over an older coin (not sure who of, but both busts survive and I am sure they are different rulers). Here you guys go - we'll call the original coin Layer 1 and the overstrike layer 2. Layer 1 is unknown. Layer 2 is Fel Temp. I'll be working on Iding the 2 emperors - I think Layer 2 is Constantius Gallus. So why did overstrikes happen? Are they common? Report this Post to the Staff

FVRIVS RVFVS Pillar of the Community United States 3443 Posts	Posted 03/06/2013 4:07 pm Usually the issuing authority (Emperor/Usurper) was paying the troops with the coins produced. One of the primary methods of coins entering circulation was the army spending their money on payday. Any Emperor worth his salt wanted the 'boys' to know on which side their bread was buttered on. Loyalty was fleeting and often for sale to the highest bidder. Coins of some wannabe were definitely to be discouraged. If not melted then restruck. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 03/06/2013 4:14 pm That is a neat find, it's going to be very difficult to tell what it was struck over. Overstrikes are more common in the later Byzantine period. This is a really nice error a keeper. Report this Post to the Staff
Ben Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 4208 Posts	Posted 03/06/2013 4:27 pm Furius - You say this is a Usurpers coin overstruck by an official mint? I always thought it was the usurpers that overstruck official issues! The big chip out of it obviously slashes its worth but do you guys reckon its worth enough to put in a 2x2? Another thought - How the heck am I going to catalogue this?! Report this Post to the Staff
FVRIVS RVFVS Pillar of the Community United States 3443 Posts	Posted 03/06/2013 5:11 pm I have no idea whose coin it originally was. You asked about overstrikes and I attempted to explain why in the later period someone might want to over strike. If you are paying your 'guys' you don't want someone else getting the credit ! The portrait looks peculiar. The straight lines are also a mystery to me. I don't claim to have any clue other than it seems to have portraits on both sides ..... which in itself makes it 'special' Report this Post to the Staff
Biancasdad Pillar of the Community United States 1045 Posts	Posted 03/06/2013 5:14 pm Looks like campgates going every which way Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 03/06/2013 5:19 pm If it were mine I would label it as late Roman Fallen Horseman error. Report this Post to the Staff
Ben Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 4208 Posts	Posted 03/06/2013 5:20 pm Bianca - that was my first thought, a barbarous camp gate. But it wasnt. It actually looks a bit like the fel temp is double struck. But that would be ridiculous. Ill have to clean it up some more. I can make out the distinct horseman - even the Ex is clear (mint mark didnt come uot yet). With any luck ill get the legend for both - annoyingly, it looks like only the FEL TEMP legend survives. I want to know what the obverse is. It looks like either a) the guy has had the eyes scraped off (interesting) or its not struck over the older design - perhaps PAX AVG? EDIT: Ech - my catalogue has Issuer, obverse legend,r everse legend and then some other stuff. Ill have to use two rows... Edited by Ben 03/06/2013 5:27 pm Report this Post to the Staff
chrsmat71 Pillar of the Community United States 4966 Posts	Posted 03/06/2013 8:39 pm well that is interesting. Report this Post to the Staff
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