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Yemen
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Hi friends, would appreciate your opinion about this raw 1882cc. Weight:26.7 Thank you all Image:  1882cc-O.jpg99.87 KB Image: 1882cc-R.jpg95.85 KB |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice coin. Very nice coin. Morganman is the way to go. He'll be along anytime now.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2254 Posts |
I agree, it looks like a nice coin. Also looks to be authentic compared to some of the others you posted. While well worn, it will still have a premium with just over a milion out there. As stated above, MM should be along soon to give some expert thoughts.
Edited by tights24
04/28/2007 7:45 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
14454 Posts |
looks like it could be another fake to me and I looked at the 78-CC and it looked to be fake as well
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Valued Member
United States
69 Posts |
Your 78-CC and this 82-CC are both genuine coins. The weight is right on, and the mint mark styles are correct for the years. The 78-CCs have a smaller mint mark than the 82-CCs. This 82 is a nice VG+, and probably close to a Fine. ~Jim
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Fine. But I don't know how to tell if it's a fake or not....?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Moderator
 United States
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Two things stand out, although there is plenty of other evidence. First, the irregularity of the mint mark. Second, the letter placement in UNITED on the reverse - the counterfeiter was not even able to get the letters on an even arc.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2600 Posts |
WOW, Dave, you and Bryan are the Dudes.  I grabbed my coin and started trying to compare them as soon as the post went up and I really could not see anything. Now that you have pointed out the errors, they seem so very obvious. I think I see another. The star between one and united on the reverse now looks warped, is that another example you saw? What else clued you or Bryan in on this coin? Jim P.S. Hey this is a great idea for a continuous thread if you could get enough examples. You post a coin with X number of clues that should tip us off to a counterfeit and we try to find them. It would be a great teaching tool. And, seeing as you have nothing else to do with your life.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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quote:
P.S. Hey this is a great idea for a continuous thread if you could get enough examples. You post a coin with X number of clues that should tip us off to a counterfeit and we try to find them. It would be a great teaching tool. And, seeing as you have nothing else to do with your life.
I think this is an excellent idea ! I myself have seen these counterfeits that members post but have no idea what or where on the coin it should tell me that is is a fake. Maybe a side by side comparison. Anyone? mila_ |
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Valued Member
United States
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Ouch  This one fooled me! Without having a good 82-CC to compare it to right now, I saw nothing wrong. Sorry for my not-so-good opinion. I have owned dozens of CC Morgans, but without a good one in my hand for comparison, this one got by me. It is a well-made fake, and those are the worst kind. They can be very deceptive. Bryan and Dave, thanks for the lesson...and for setting me straight  Learning never ends in this great hobby! ~Jim |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Jim M. how do you think I feel. I had mine in hand and screwed it up.  It makes me wonder. Has that coin gone thru circulation to be that worn? I would have expected the bad guys to make them in better grades. Why counterfeit a coin and then knock it's value down by making VG instead of XF. Are they dumb or very smart? Who would look for a counterfeit in a heavily worn coin?  Jim |
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Valued Member
United States
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That puzzles me as well, Jim. Maybe a contemporary counterfeit? Or something that someone carried for years as a "pocket piece". I have an Ike dollar that I have carried for a few years, and the wear is showing already. As good as this coin looks for a counterfeit, it has probably fooled a lot of people over the years. It may have actually passed for a buck hundreds of times over the course of its life. ~Jim |
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United States
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Which is harder to make - a die for a Mint State coin, or a die for a coin that has already lost detail through wear? It's precisely how I'd go about counterfeiting if I were going to - strike worn coins for pennies apiece, and sell 50 for $50 each instead of 1 for $2500, to people less likely to discover the scam.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hmmmmmm, Dave, sure seems like you have put a lot of thought into this. Jim1953 Edited by Jim1953
05/03/2007 7:46 pm
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