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TJsCoins Pillar of the Community United States 3229 Posts	Posted 03/10/2013 12:08 pm Here is my "new to me" 1722 Rosa Americana, with a lot of character! It is 3.43 grams and 22.5 mm, which I think means that it is a half penny. I just ordered "whitman encyclopedia of colonial and early american coins". RedBook doesn't give a lot of stats on this type. It does mention that these are made of 75% copper, 24.7% zinc, and 0.03% silver (mistakenly called Bath metal). The seller mentioned that the metal for the planchetes was of terrible quality and often times included bits and pieces of what-ever, including floor scraps. RedBook makes note that the planchetes were often rough and porous. What net grade would you give to this colonial copper in the rough? Report this Post to the Staff

amida17 Pillar of the Community United States 4897 Posts	Posted 03/10/2013 12:16 pm Very nice! VF+ deails. Martin 2-C. Report this Post to the Staff
TJsCoins Pillar of the Community United States 3229 Posts	Posted 03/12/2013 11:06 am Amida, thanks for your response! I picked this up at "Poor" pricing which IMHO is deal:) The seller has a Nova Constellatio set aside for me. It is in Poor condition but I am excited about it none the less! Report this Post to the Staff
TJsCoins Pillar of the Community United States 3229 Posts	Posted 03/12/2013 11:24 am I have been been doing a little research and according to Wiki: Use of term "America(no,na,...)" and other derivatives is mostly accredited to Amerigo Vespucci, a Italian merchant and cartographer who explored South America's east coast in the early 1500's. Thomas Hacket's 1568 translation of André Thévet's book on France Antarctique is the earliest use of the term in English. Also recorded is Thomas Gage's The English-American in 1648. The official name of the country 'The United States of America' was established on November 15, 1777, when the Second Continental Congress adopted the Articles of Confederation, the first of which says. What I have not been able to dig up is: What is the first coin to have the use of "America(no,na,...) on it"? Are the Rosa Americana coins the first? Report this Post to the Staff
TJsCoins Pillar of the Community United States 3229 Posts	Posted 03/13/2013 12:19 am Just received my Whitman Colonial coins Book! Here is synopsis of the, "Wood's Rosa Americana Coinage 1717-1733". Wood was a metallurgist. He obtained a patent from George I to produce coins for the "American Plantations". Some sat the Duchess of Kendall helped secure the patent. The Rosa Americana coinage was made at a time when coinage was scarce. The patent was for 14 years. No more than 200 tons were struck during the first four years. No more than 10 tons for the next 10 years was to made. These coins were designated for the, " islands, dominions, or territories belonging to His Majesty, His heirs, or His successors in America, Or any of them." The Rosa Americana coinage was given halfpenny, penny, and twopence, but was only about half the weight similar English denominations. Some coins have been found without silver in them. Efforts were made to circulate the coinage, but it largely rejected but did circulate. These coins also circulated in England. Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 03/13/2013 12:53 am I actually beg to differ on the grade. This coin, IMHO, has AU Details all day long. Very little wear evident. Too bad about the corrosion. It's a tough coin in the Rosa Americana series. Yup, Martin 2-C :-) swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
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