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What Do You Think Of These Coins ? (5)

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 Posted 03/12/2013  5:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lenard to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,
Newbie is back :-)

I have some strangely shiny coins, could you tell me what is it ?

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 Posted 03/12/2013  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dionysus Tetradrachm from Thrace, Maronea

http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=531769
http://www.acsearch.info/search.htm...rt=&c=&a=&l=

Can't say for sure if it's real but it looks off to me, style wise.

Others will probably confirm or deny.
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 Posted 03/12/2013  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an alloy copy. Something made for the tourist market? Test the edge with caratest.
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 Posted 03/12/2013  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lenard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks MetDet what is testing the edge with caratest ?
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I agree not a real coin.
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Yep, it's a fake coin, sorry. Specifically, it's a well-documented fake made by the Bulgarian fakemaster Slavey. Here's one on the FORVM fake database. As the comment on FORVM states, there's a basic error Slavey made on this coin: The name "Dionysos" is spelled wrong or rather, has the wrong grammatical case ending. On this coin, it ends in sigma (shaped like a sideways "M"). On genuine coins of this type, it's supposed to end in upsilon (shaped like a "Y").
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Ahh, this is interesting. That's why the OP coin looks reasonably good, Slavey was a good fakester.

Are Slavey fakes collectable?
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 Posted 03/12/2013  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Are Slavey fakes collectable?

Not yet. Give 'em another hundred years, and they may be on par with Becker.
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 Posted 03/13/2013  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lenard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks very much for that detailed info sap.

Fakes may not be collectable but it seems I have a colelction of them :-)

About that sideaways M as a wrong grammatical ending. Would that be the case with other names. For example I have one writing Bazileum, should that end with Y in the same way ?
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It would indeed be the case with other names, but "basileos" isn't a name, it's a title: the Greek word for "king". Here's a coin of Alexander the Great, for example: the name "Alexander" ends in "Y" (ALEXANDROY) but the title "basileos" ends in sigma (sideways M - BASILEOS).
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 Posted 03/15/2013  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lenard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So if I understand well, that one would be correct as far as spelling is concerned ? Thanks for all these info

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