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So I have three local branches of my bank that I have a good relationship with. One of the banks has a coin sorting machine so this is my dump bank because they don't charge for it. I was chatting with the teller today about the machine and asked if I could buy the bags right off the machine or if they allowed them to be sold. She said her current manager didn't like doing it before they could be sent off and credited but she gave me the hook up of another branch not too far away that would allow it. So my question is this:
Is this a good way to hunt? Do those machines kick out and reject silver and large dollars (Ike's)? I could very easily buy quarters, halves, and dollars, dump them all out and in about an hour pick any silver or Ike's and then just scoop everything else back in the bag and return them to the bank at a pre-arranged slow time and have them re-sort it. I may be able to sell them on the idea based on the fact that there would be no need to worry about rolling coins twice right? Anyone have any experience with this?
Thanks in advance!
Russ
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They don't reject wheat pennies  but they do reject steel pennies  I have not bought any coins from machines but I thought someone on here found silver quarters from machine coins.
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I have heard of people finding silver in bags like that. However, They also find several tokens in quarter bags. I don't know how you feel about tokens. I would be okay with finding them, but some people aren't.
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I'm betting, now that I think about it, that there is still a better chance of finding silver in CWRs. I'm guessing that most bank tellers know the sound of silver so if they are pouring someones loose change into a machine, they can hear and maybe pluck and buy them out of there? The teller I spoke to today said she had collected a bunch of silver over the years and she doesn't hardly see it anymore.
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My wife once put a bunch of change from a school fund-raiser into a counting machine and it rejected a silver nickel - twice. It might vary by type of machine, however.
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I deal primarily in bank bags. Banks have contracts with the armored car carriers to pick up and bring them money. The banks that I have asked told me that the contract covers a certain weight both coming and going. If they go over the limit either way that have to pay additional fees. When I get boxes, I just get one at a branch. I have several branches around so that is no problem. I also opened an account at most of the local banks. I have talked four local bank branches into letting me take the bags from the coin machines. The only drawback to this is you have to pay face value for what ever amount the bank has paid out in the bag. The bank may pay out $50.00 for a bag of pennies but if you count the amount in the bag it may come out to a different dollar amount. I know that I am stuck for the difference. The banks know that I will not go back to them to tell them that the bag was short. Even if the bag was short and I complained about it and they gave me a refund for difference, Then they would have given out more than 50.00 for the bag and their accounts would be short. The bank might do this once, but then you would not pick up any more bags. The banks that I get the bags from are happy for me to take them. They don't have to do the paper work to ship them back and don't incur additional fees for the bank. I usually pick them up a day or two before the armor car shows up which is every Wednesday. There are magnets in the machine that stops any steel/iron from going through. All other metals will go through. I also only dump a one bank and pick up change from the other banks. The dump bank has four branches and I usually hit them all about once a week. Where I pick up both boxes and bags the banks knows that I will not come in and dujmp them back at their bank. I don't want them to handle them twice, both in and out. Large dollars will go through the machine. If you are going to get different denominations of coins then I would mix them to take them back to the bank. The machines around here have 1 dollar bag, 1 half bag, 2 quarter bags, 2 dime bags, 2 nickel bags and 4 cent bags. Once the last bag of any denomination fills up a bank employee has to come out and switch out bags. By mixing the coins on the dump I am less likely to full up a bag. I usually dump about 7000 coins at a time. I never reroll any change unless the bank request some back that way. Most banks will not take any rolled coins around here.
Still Lookin
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I've asked at a few banks and they told me they can't do it.
I was talking with the branch manager at Chase while getting some boxes last week and he said all change over $1 worth has to go through the counter.
But I'm pretty sure that if a teller eyes some silver and decides to not run it through the machine they would probably let it slide.
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@still lookin - So if you had a choice, would you rather CWR search or bank bag search? It sounds like you have quite the system going for you by the way! I'm hoping that I can get a deal like that with this other branch I mentioned. Have you had better luck going this route?
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I don't think that there is any difference between rolls and bags. Logic would tell me that the bags would be better because you would have to look at the coins more closely when counting and rolling them. You could get someone else's dump going either way. The bags should contain the same coins as bank boxes. The only difference is how hard people are searching where the coins are deposited. I don't think that people are looking to hard around here. I sometimes get bags with no wheat cents, but most people here are not searching for errors/varieties. One idiot here is trying to get $400.00 in cents at a time and looking for Indian Head cents. He is immediately taking them back to the same back to dump them within a couple of hours. That is a bank that I pick up an occasional box. I do have a business account at that bank. They will have a hard time denying me a box. Still Lookin
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Some counters are set to reject silver, some aren't. I'm all for buying bags, but, whatever you do, please don't return your coin to the same bank you purchased them from. It's the fastest way to get cut off from future purchases.
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors... Roll hunting since '77 Dirt fishing since '72
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Only once (and never again) bought a sealed bag of 1k face quarters. Not one silver, plus the count was short $17.25 Luckily I got the money back.
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United States
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What you could do is drop a silver nickel or a silver dime and see if it rejects it if you don't know whether or not it accepts silver coins.
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Good idea Trent C. Yeah, I may have to give it whirl and see what happens. I'm all for keeping relationships at my bank in A+ condition too, I've been in customer service for far too long and appreciate their position as well as my own desires. The question now is what denomination to start with... hmmm...
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I do bags as much as I can. I have it worked out to where two of my banks will give me whatever they want from their coin machines. These are customer deposited bags from the coin counter in the lobby. I find silver in the m all teh time. I do not complain to teh bank if I get a foreing coin or come up a penny or dime short. there will be errors made by the machine (pennies in the dimes, dimes in the pennies), so I just figure it works out for me in the long run. It took years of asking and I have only gotten permission from two branches to do it. I find all kinds of stuff in there - silver, good foreign, old ocins. Its probably similar to roll hunting with the exception that you can really score it big if someone dumps a bunch of silver or buffaloes or whatever. you get them all - whereas with bank boxes sthat dump would get spread out over several boxes. good luck
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I feel like it depends on what you are looking for. They might be short, so if you only want silver, the I would stay away from quarters since they are hard to find and the risk of losing more than yo make is high. If you keep copper, the DIFINITELY get bags of cents. even if it is short by 10% you still can make that up easily by selling the copper.
I get everything I can afford.
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Interesting on the quarters baysinger626. I wonder, with the different sizes of dollars do most machines accept the older Ike's or do they not even fit into the sorter anymore and they have to count them out with a teller? I just started a BU presidential set and Native/Sac set so I may start there if you think I may get a shot at scoring some Ike's. If not, maybe I'll go Halves or Dimes.
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