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hi I'm new to here. I have a question.. I have a 1853 Seated Liberty quarter dollar piece. on the front she sits normally like other quarters, when I spin the piece over the eagle is sideways not up and down. what I mean by spin is rotate to the left. any thoughts?  |
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It sounds like a rotated die. This means the dies were not aligned during the minting process. Any premium or increase to the value is small (if any). There is a website devoted to these errors. http://www.rotateddies.com/ It doesn't look like they list an 1853 quarter so you may be on to something. |
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ok thx ill look at the site..
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Can you post a pic of it?
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Valued Member
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There is also a chance it could just be a bad fake though.
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I'd like to see this coin. There were 114 die combinations used to pound out the 15MM LSQs in 1853 and in this unprecedented minting there were a tremendous amount of errors including rotated dies. You may just have one of those |
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my phone takes bad pics to fuzzy when I try to make it bigger but ill put it up
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how do I upload a pic? use the image optimizer as a start there's a link in the "Reply to Topic" you'll see it optimize than Upload Pic link in same place as the optimizer |
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Welcome aboard, BigBlueBlob2! I've run across a few rotated die 1853's over the years. I've yet to see one that is a full quarter-turn or 90 degrees, as yet. Even though these are very uncommon, there's not sufficient demand for these rotated dies in general to drive the price. That said, a rotated die Morgan would likely command a large premium. I once spoke with a serious collector of Seated quarters about this rotation matter. he's long been seeking an 1853 quarter with a 180 degree rotation. Thus, he was willing to pay a premium for such a coin. He passed on my partial rotation. Some other coins that have rotated dies are 1864 Indian cents and 1864 Two Cent Pieces. Many Buffalo nickels exhibit rotated dies, as do some early Lincolns and various other type coins. |
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That's a significant rotation, bbb. At this distance the coin looks genuine, but I'd really like to see better pics.
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how would I find out about value of coin.
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I found an example on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AU-1853-A-R...em2ec5201175It's a higher grade and, IMHO, looks significantly cleaned to my eye. I seriously doubt that the seller will receive the price sought. How to determine the value ... save some ebay searches for "1853 Liberty Seated quarter, rotation" and the like. Do some similar Google searches. Study and learn ... The average collector might pay 10-20% over ask for such an error; my guess, based on 50+ years' experience. More advanced collectors will probably not pay that much; this, knowing that die rotations are relatively minor errors. Less knowing collectors will probably pay the most, given a "whim and a prayer." That said, there may be a specialist who sees something more in a particular coin. |
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