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Found Another 1921-D Morgan (Fake Toning?)

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Got this and a few Mercury dimes at a garage sale (all under melt) and I was wondering, is this fake toning? I have no eye for identifying it and I know I've read here that the colors are supposed to mix evenly if it's real toning so I'm not sure. Anyway, this is my second 1921D.

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It looks to me like it was stored in an old sulphur envelope with other coins over lapping.
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IMO, natural toning. I really like the reverse
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Looks like a nice coin. I don't think the 1921's tended to tone (that's a whole other debate) so I am a bit skeptical on the toning.
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Looks natural toning to me, or as natural as toning gets.

Nice pick up
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I like it. I don't know alot about this but from what I've seen it seems natural.
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Jim, did later dates of morgans just not tone for some reason or?
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Joe,
There was a debate on this topic several years ago -- on another coin collector thread -- with several suggestions, without any conclusions. From my recollection, suggestions were:
1) The planchets were treated differently and hence did not tend to tone.
2) The cloth bags were of a different composition (perhaps lower sulfur content) and did not promote toning.
3) Storage of the 1921 coins at the mint was in a more controlled environment and did not promote toning.

All of these are viable, and may be likely contributors. In any event, it is uncommon to find a 1921 Morgan that is nicely toned. This argument also applies to Peace dollars.
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