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I received these in change between 1-2 years ago (at different times), and I was trying to find out what they would be worth, for this degree of rotation.So far, I've seen $30. and up, and $200.That's a big difference.A coin very similar to the 1998P was featured in CoinWorld magazine, with the die attrition also. I'm pretty sure this one is legit, because I don't see any seams or anything, but I'm not sure exactly where I'm looking (face,rim,edge?)The 1965, I'm not sure about, because it looks like there could be a seam, and right now I don't have another 65 to compare to. I tried looking at a 78, and it looked the same to me, but I thought I would put them out there, and see what people thought.Oh, and would it be worth it to have them certified?One more question - I couldn't get a very good pic of the obverse of the 98P, but there's a flat area that's level with the face of the coin, right in front of Washington's eye that shouldn't be there.I'd seen this before on another coin, and was wondering what causes it? The 98P are the top 3 pictures, the 1965 are the bottom 2.Appreciate your thoughts!       |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The top one looks like a magician coin. Does it weigh the same as normal coin? Drop test to see if the sound compares the same as a normal coin. (Drop about 6" to tell. Don't drop it clear to the floor from a table top.)
If it sounds normal, a closer shot of the rim in the area of the USA. It might be something else?
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03/17/2013 11:29 pm
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Thanks Coop. I grabbed 3 other quarters, plus these 2, and dropped them all randomly, and they all sounded the same to me. I'll try to get the pictures on for more help. Thanks again!
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Bedrock of the Community
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That coin looks altered. The reverse was taken off with t lathe and a new reverse was added. Why? On magician coins they usually add two heads or two tails. But this one looks like an attempt to make a rotated reverse. (Which is collectable.) here is a half altered:  See how the reverse face added has the outside devices affected? That is how they make them. Hollow out one and add the same/opposite/different reverse/obverse or what else. That is what I'm seeing on your coin. Sorry. I was hoping it was another anomoly that I won't mention now. |
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Sorry to hear about your quarter WLH. I was pulling for you. But those are nice up close shots. What did you use to get them, camera or USB scope?
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The second one might be a real one? I see no marks on the rims on these. I remember someone on time placed a rotated die coin in a mirror and took an image show that it showed both sides of the coin in the same shot. You have to take the coin's image at an angle as flash would whiteout the shot. I think you could use a cloths pin to hold the coin upright and get an angled shot and it would show both sides. That would help.
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wlh...Hope ypur coin turns out to be real..If so, it is rotated 112.90 degrees
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Old School  Either one, any modern coin 90 deg. or more off is a keeper. 90 was more common on older coins but still nice. I like the 180's myself on any. Scarce find though today. I like it.  |
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Coop, I tried to get those pictures, (both sides at once), but haven't been able to get anything that's not blurry yet. You need them close up, right? I'm going to keep trying, and when I get them I'll post them. I do see what you mean about the devices on the Magician's coin, and just wanted to let you know, I really appreciate the pictures you post! I've read alot of the posts in the forum, and your pictures are always a big help. After saying that, I'd like to pick your brain one more time. Assuming that a Magician's coin is made from 2 real coins, can you tell me what this is in front of Washington's eye? I got a better picture of the obverse,and if this happened in the mint, I'd like to know what type of error it is for future reference. Thanks again!  |
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TJB17, thanks for the support! I took the pictures with my camera (nikon coolpix 4600), but I still have to fool around with it. These I took outside, I have much better luck with natural light. To get extreme close ups, I use my coin loupe to magnify the area I want, then put the camera lens right up against the loupe. That's what I did in the last picture I posted. I'll have to BE a magician to get these 2 sided pictures though, so I'll have earned that coin by the time I'm done  , and there's still hope for one out of two! |
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Thanks wert, and Indian1 for your measuring . I was guessing about 110 for both, but that's only because of that picture I saw in the magazine. The rotation looked about the same as mine, and they said it was 110. And it's good to know, if the 2nd one's not a fake. I appreciate all the help! |
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The die that made the obverse of you coin was over polished to cover die clashes. When this happens it removes shallow and mid devices. Thus the area in front of the eye was polished so deeply it looses the devices that should have been there.
I appreciate you comments about images. These do help and a lot of images come from forums I frequent and I use them with notation of who provided them. Feel free to copy them for your own educational collection. Mine are there for the hobby. So thanks to all who help with them through the years. I just made up 5 for today. Sometime when the right question is asked, I will post them. Thanks again.
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Thanks Coop, for that last answer, I was wondering. I'm still trying on the pictures, I can get the images to appear almost even, but one comes out clear, and the other blurry. Thinking of trying manual focus, and will play around with more angles. Also going to check the photo forum to see if anyone's got ideas/advice. If I get them, I'll post them. Thanks again!
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