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1862 Penny - Small Date?

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 Posted 03/18/2013  4:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add moonshinewilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this today and can't figure out if it's a small date version or not...The 6 and 2 look closer together than in most examples I can find but I'm not sure it's the same size are the half penny date. Any advice very much appreciated!

1862-Penny---Small-Date?

1862-Penny---Small-Date?

1862-Penny---Small-Date?

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 Posted 03/18/2013  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cointosser77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure, might be closer together as in CD?

Here's a 1862 which is a "normal" date I believe:

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 Posted 03/18/2013  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moonshinewilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Cointosser. What do you mean "might be closer together as in CD"?
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 Posted 03/18/2013  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cointosser77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that I posted, it looks like your 6 and 2 are definetly closer together:)

1862 seems a very interesting year, lots of variations which is probably inevitable with a 50 million+ mintage that year but some go into the thousands of £
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 Posted 03/18/2013  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cointosser77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CD is Close Date I think, but yours seems that all except the 6 are in same place in relation of the teeth and 6 and 2 seem definetly closer together.

If you sell it I would love to know how much you got for it:)
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 Posted 03/18/2013  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moonshinewilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I think it is closer, I don't know if that means it's a small date version tho... The date does look the same as on this half penny:

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 Posted 03/18/2013  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cointosser77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking again as far as the font size goes, it does look like it is less tall so it could be the FMAN 41 variation with smaller halfpenny date but I am not an expert, if it is then that's £1600 in the catalog (Collector's Coins GB book)
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 Posted 03/18/2013  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moonshinewilly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, well that would make it a very nice find...Do you have any advice for having it verified? The condition isn't amazing (sorry, don't know if the proper classifications) I'll see if I can post a pic of the whole coin.
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OK I think I've verified it as having a small date... The following pic shows both versions, the small date on the left (I assume). On the left one the 6 and 2 are closer together, like mine...

http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/img.ph...1746&f=r&s=l
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 Posted 03/18/2013  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cointosser77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For what it is I think it is good to very good, fine in parts of the hair but I have no idea of how much it is really worth. On auction sites and auction houses it always depends if there's at least 2 people who really want it, if I was to sell it I would do a reserve on it of maybe £50-100 and hope it would sell for more
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OK great, many thanks Cointosser77 I might just do that...
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 Posted 07/01/2013  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jebali to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Hey Moonshine did you get your coin figured out.

I have been trying to figure out the same thing.

Mine is very similar to your coin so any info would help

Thanks

J
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1862-Penny---Small-Date?

Hi, Moonshinewilly, your coin is not the 1862 penny with half penny numerals. I have included a picture from Michael Gouby's reference showing the two coins side by side. As you will note, both sets of numerals are the same width...the difference is the "Height" of the numerals! The small date (1/2 penny numerals) has a noticeably small height on the "1" in the date, and also the "1" and "6" are fatter than the normal date. They are hard to tell apart, unless you have them side by side. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I thought you would like to know.
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 Posted 04/28/2015  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add benbenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting topic.

I have a 1862 penny small date, well thats what I believe, Never had it checked second opinion, grade or value.
The green patina is because I found this small date while metal detecting.
What do you fellow collectors think.

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 Posted 04/28/2015  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matttheriley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are good at unearthing things!
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 Posted 05/16/2015  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add benbenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
haha I know.
coin just came back from the expert and I have a confirmation
its a the rare small date Half Penny punch version .
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