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 Posted 05/02/2007  03:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add yechi7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I don't want to sound paranoid but:

As a seller, other than a selling slabbed Washington error coins, what is to stop a buyer from buying an authentic smooth edge Washington error coin & returning a fake, claiming that the coin sent was fake & then keeping the real one?
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 Posted 05/02/2007  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrycopaul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Assuming the the ones you are planning to sell are not altered coins, wouldn't a no return policy take care of that.
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Most coin sellers will not accept a return on a coin that has been removed from its original shipping holder ,,whatever form that may take , usually for unslabbed coins that is a 2X2,, with some type of very Identifiable writing,stapleing,or other easily recogniseable form of Identification.

a coin that is returned that has been tampered with will not receive a refund.

its pretty simple !!

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 Posted 05/02/2007  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texasmick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is a 2x2 revealing enough to let the buyer examine the edge and allay all doubts?
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If they are going to buy these errors unslabbed ? they have already gone into the realm of not making a wise decision in my opinion !!

maybe they should be put in Morgan dollar 2X2 ,,but any seller who takes a return of a coin removed from its original holder is not even as bright as the one who purchased the coin raw !!

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 Posted 05/03/2007  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yechi7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a seller, I don't want someone removing the coin from its holder out of concern for switching it.

But as a buyer, the main way to tell if the coin is authentic is to remove it from its holder & examine it for tell-tale signs of edge smoothing by dremel or lathe.

See this link:
How to Tell if a Godless Plain Edge Dollar is Fake

http://coins.about.com/od/errorcoin...s_dollar.htm

"What does the edge look like? As a general rule, the edges on the Presidential dollars are a mess under good magnification (such as a 10 power triplet jeweler's loupe.) Although the edge may appear smooth to the naked eye, once you get a close up look, you should see all kinds of dings and dents, perhaps a very slightly convex aspect towards the center, and most importantly, very fine vertical lines that may or may not go all the way from top to bottom. You might need to tilt the coin to the light in various ways to discern these fine vertical lines, but they appear on every single genuine unmodified Presidential dollar edge that I have seen, whether it had edge lettering or not."

"The best test of all to authenticate a genuine plain edge dollar is to examine the edge under 10 power or greater magnification. Compare what you see on your plain edge Presidential dollar to regular lettered-edge dollars. The dings and dents and other non-letter markings should look approximately similar, but most of all, look for the faint vertical lines that appear on every single unmodified Presidential dollar edge. If all you see is a smooth, nearly perfect edge (under good magnification,) that is bad news. What's even worse news is seeing a very smooth edge with faint little circular marks that sort of repeat themselves around the entire perimeter (which are signs of a dremel style buffing tool.)"
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 Posted 05/03/2007  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sleaklight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
weigh them as well, a sanded down dollar weighs about 2 grams less than a true smooth dollar. A filled one will weight close to a gram more.
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