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My $19.95 Win And A Message For ND

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 Posted 06/15/2005  9:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add grovey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
lists at $75.00
what do you think ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWN:IT&rd=1

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 Posted 06/15/2005  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You did pretty good on this one. Not sure where you are getting your prices though. A few have sold on Heritage in the $30 to $37 range. So 19.95 is a really good deal. Congrats! Just think, you paid less than the price of the plastic.
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 Posted 06/15/2005  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin and a great price!
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 Posted 06/15/2005  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grovey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The price came from the July 2005 list price of Coin Values. $25.00 ms65 $75.00 ms66 $200.00 ms67.
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 Posted 06/15/2005  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We really have to get you looking at better price guides. You did good on this one. Just be careful. You should also check the http://www.heritagecoin.com auctions. These coins usually sell very near dealer bid. Also they are MUCH safer than ebay. Just a suggestion.....
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 Posted 06/15/2005  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grovey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ND I went to the site and looked up another item I am watching. 1944d Washington quarter. lists again at $100.00 in the current issue of coin values. I understand that you can get good deals at auctions as I have been to many of them. but why such a drastic difference between a monthly publication with detailed listings and auctions. I copied this from the website

1944d Washington Quater ms66 lists at $100.00 in July 2005 issue of Coin Values but look at the difference.

Previous Prices from Heritage Auctions
Lot Date Grade Service Realized
Sale 25062, Lot 13523 Tuesday, June 14, 2005 66 PCGS $51.00
Sale 25061, Lot 11317 Tuesday, June 7, 2005 66 PCGS $37.00
Sale 25054, Lot 11257 Tuesday, May 24, 2005 66 PCGS $42.00
Sale 65054, Lot 23266 Sunday, May 22, 2005 66 PCGS $41.00
Sale 25053, Lot 13328 Tuesday, May 17, 2005 66 PCGS $41.00
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 Posted 06/15/2005  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have also noticed that CoinValues mag. is "way-off" on many listings, especially modern issues. Seems that Coin World could be a little more accurate.
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Hey Grovey,
I think the difference is retail vs "bid" or wholesale. Coin Values is always way off. I always check Heritage, because they represent hammer prices including buyers premiums. It also helps to actually view the coins in the comparable sale window. Many times the eye appeal , strike, toning or another feature causes a variation as well. Pay attention to the dates! More recent does not always equal more money. By the way, $20.00 & $4.00 shipping arte a good deal for that coin. As ND stated you can consider that you got it slabbed for free, or paid the cost of slabbing and got the coin for free!! Mike
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quote:
Originally posted by grovey
I understand that you can get good deals at auctions as I have been to many of them. but why such a drastic difference between a monthly publication with detailed listings and auctions.


ALL of the "retail" price guides take the highest national advertised price. These values more often than not come from catalogs and major ads. The reason that they use these prices is to make the coin market "look" better than it is. They take all of these prices listed nationally and make a high average. If you look at the American Historical Society products http://www.shopping.com/xDN-Gifts_a...e_120~V-grid you will see that their prices are very close to "trends".
Heritage is one of the best sites for prices. There will not be "fantastic" deals, but you will get honest prices on quality coins certified by the top grading companies. The vast majority of these coins sell for very close to dealer prices.
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Hi ND and others,
As you know, I recently made my first heritage purchase and am generally happy with the coin I "won", and I am impressed by the photo features at the heritage site. Some collectors view heritage as a site where folks "dump" their "poor eye appeal for the grade" slabbed coins. Doubtless this is true at times. I imagine many dealers in particular sell their nicer coins for the grade to regular customers and others at auction. Do you think we "average" collectors should generally stick with coins from folks we know or when we see the coin in hand?
Don

Grovey,
Nice coin! Although I am an inexperienced collector, you and nds have made me anxious with some of your ebay adventures. I have often had thoughts similar to those posted by National Dealer- be careful re ebay!
Don
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quote:
Originally posted by SFDukie
Do you think we "average" collectors should generally stick with coins from folks we know or when we see the coin in hand?


I believe that this statement should be etched into stone. Too often collectors rush into buying coins. They start by thinking, here is the coin I want, priced near what I want to pay, and they make the deal. Others get caught up in the whole auction mentality. Unless you are buying coins with populations of less than 20, there should never be a rush to buy.
Get to know your dealer/seller. This can be done through emails, phone calls, or personal contact. Unless you have money to burn, why the rush?
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