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1963-D 1βΆ Major Rolling Fold Obverse

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 Posted 03/30/2013  9:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Never heard of a rolling fold error, sounds more like a note error...

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 Posted 03/30/2013  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've heard of "Wheel Mark" damaged coins due to rolling machine which I assume most CRH have found on nice coins that have had the misfortune of ending up on the end of a roll.
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 Posted 03/31/2013  04:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never heard of it but Fred Weinberg knows his stuff so it's legit.
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 Posted 03/31/2013  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A rolling fold error happens when the blanking punch is damaged. The blank punched out with this punch will have a tail or tab attached at the spot where the damage is because the metal on the blank tears away instead of being sheared off. Then when the blank goes through the upset process the tab gets pushed up. Finally when the coin is struck the attached vertical tab gets struck into the coin.
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 Posted 04/03/2013  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A better, more descriptive term is "blanking burr". However, we're stuck with the terminology we inherit. Rolling folds don't come much bigger than the one you see on this cent. Rolling folds are often confused with run-of-the-mill rim burrs, struck-in metal fragments, lamination errors, Retained Cuds, and even small Cuds. There was another lot containing four alleged rolling folds offered at the same time as this one. However, only one of the four was actually a rolling fold.
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 Posted 04/03/2013  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mike. In the second lot you talked about was it the nickel that had the blanking burr (rolling fold)? Then the other 3 coins were struck in rim burrs?
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 Posted 04/03/2013  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bugmanmiller to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've never heard of it before....I guess you learn new things every day!
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In the second lot it was indeed the nickel that had the rolling fold. The other coins either had rim burrs or non-specific forms of peripheral pre-strike planchet damage.
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 Posted 04/03/2013  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If anyone was wondering the ebay item number for the second lot is 390563004429
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