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Russia, 5 Kopeek 1726, Authentic?

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 Posted 04/03/2013  06:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ngdawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all!
I just found this auction for this coin. It will end in less than 24 hours and I'm really eager to buy it, but, I want to be sure that I don't buy a replica.

The coin is a square Russian 5 kopeek dated 1726, uniface. It should be in Copper and 19 or 22 mm (depends if it's the small och big type).

Here is the picture from the auction. Please tell me what you think. Does it look authentic or fake? (The buyer says taht he bought it on the German ebay)

Russia,-5-Kopeek-1726,-Authentic?

Russia,-5-Kopeek-1726,-Authentic?

Thanks!

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 Posted 04/03/2013  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is authentic, you should be looking to fork out more than 100,000 dollars. I think that tells you a lot... it's not cheap at all.
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 Posted 04/03/2013  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is so ridiculously crude it almost looks like an early counterfeit.
Or, even more likely, it's intended to simulate a tourist's impression of the awful coin quality of the 1720s.

...If you didn't get it: fake either way.


EDIT: Heck, even the spelling is wrong; on a real coin, the yat (the very high letter) should be after the E, not before it. (Of course, this is something very easy to get wrong; the spelling of this word actually changed a lot over the Russian Imperial period, and in fact the other ("cross") version of 5 kopek coins from 1726 had the spelling used on the OP coin!)
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04/03/2013 09:10 am
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 Posted 04/03/2013  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ngdawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, 100,000 dollars!? It's on 36 dollars right now
He says that the weight ig 50 grams and the size is 5x4 cm and that it's 1-2 mm thick.

I didn't quick follow you about the "yat"-error, january1may. The only yat is it the denomination "pyat' kopyeek'", right? (cuz kopyeek is spelled correctly). I like the speeling of Ekaterinburg though, too bad it changed
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 Posted 04/04/2013  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
cuz kopyeek is spelled correctly


Exactly
The real thing spelled it incorrectly.
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 Posted 04/07/2013  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ngdawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Exactly
The real thing spelled it incorrectly.


Ah, sneaky Nice detail, well spotted! I saw that the acution ended on about $72. I e-mailed the seller but didn't get a reply.
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