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Three Ancient Coins I Know Nothing About

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These there coins came from a collection I recently purchased. If anyone has a idea what they are please feel free to post ..

The first two I am guessing are not real, based on condition,


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The last coin I have hope it may be something .. real .. old.


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Last ones certainly real. The first two are definitely from ancient dies - the design is spot on. The finish is possible with cleaning but...well, I dont know. You'd have to post pictures of the rims of them all.

Heres IDs none the less;
Licinius, IOVI CONSERVATORI (Cyzicus Mint)
Constantine I, SOLI INVICTO COMITI (cant make this out)
Constantine II, CAESARVM NOSTRORVM, VOT X (Rome/Arles mint? Cant quite make it out)

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All three seem legit. They are a Constantine I AE3 on left, Licinius I follis in middle and a Constantine II AE3 on right (the greenish one).


If you need full attributions let me know.

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All three are real and very nice examples.
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WOW .. that is a suprise .. you guys are good.

Any chance anyone would know that year (ranges)
I am very new at this .. just wanting to know as much as I can
to write on the 2X2's

Next time I set up the camera .. I will try to take edge pictures
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Any of the three rulers you can look up and get the years when they ruled. For some coins you can get an exact year when they were minted, if you attribute them completely and to a RIC catalog ID.
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You are right I should have tried to look them up, I am sure I am not 100 percent .. but very interesting finding similar coins online

Licinius, IOVI CONSERVATORI (Cyzicus Mint)
A.D. 311-313

Constantine I, SOLI INVICTO COMITI (cant make this out) A.
I think the reverse says,
SOL UNUI (Arm)C (Head) TOCOMITI
A.D. 312-313
Constantine II, CAESARVM NOSTRORVM VOY X
Maybe A.D. 320-1

I know there is a good chance I am wrong on the dates .. but it is fun looking at all the old coins


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Heres the full shibang:

Licinius I:
IMP C VAL LICIN LICINIVS PF AVG L
IOVI CONS-ERVATORI
I in right field
Mintmark: SKM Mint: Cyzicus
RIC REF: RIC VII Cyzicus 6
Rarity: R3 (Very Rare! I think its the blundered mint mark which should be SMK)
Date of Mint: 316-317
Denomination: Follis

Constantine I:
IMP CONSTANTINVS PF AVG
SOLI INVI-C-TO COMITI
Star in left field
Mint Mark: Unknown Mint: Ticinium
RIC REF: Mint mark not known so unable to attribute
Rarity: See above
Date of mintage: 313-315

Constantine II:
CONSTANTINVS IVN NOB C
CAESARVM NOSTRORVM
VOT X
Mint mark: Unknown, perhaps TAR? The rest assumes TAR
Mint: Arles
RIC REF: RIC VII Arles 261 var (mintmark)
Rarity: R2 (Quite Rare) if Tar
Date of Mintage: 322-323






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BenByfield .. WOW ... thank you very much.
That information is very interesting.

The first two are in such good shape, it seems strange they are almost 1700
years old. the third coin looks better in hand but has green on it. Should
I soak it in anything, like acetone?
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Well, it could be BD. If its powdery and comes off easily then you'd have to treat for Bronze Disease - this isn't too difficult. You give it an extended bath in distilled water or deionized water, changing the water often. Use of regular water could make it worse as this water has the ions in it tat you are trying to remove!

Otherwise, I dont think there is anything you can do to improve it. A soak is acetone cant harm the coin in any case (although if it is lacquered to get that shine then it might strip that off which wouldnt be the best idea)
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