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Is This 1872 Quarter Real Or A Fake?

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Saw this on ebay and it just does not look right to me. I am a novice and I don't know if this is the right place to post this. The T on Victoria, some of the letters look odd and the number 2 looks suspiciously low. Anyone here an expert on this? Here is a link (hope it works)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-CANADIA...t_782wt_1397
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 Posted 04/08/2013  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1188howest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it's fine,REAL fine.
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 Posted 04/08/2013  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pfrien to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I am paranoid after having read about the Chinese forgeries. The good thing is that this seller has the 14-day return policy. I refuse to bid where sellers don't have a return policy, unless it is a slabbed coin perhaps.
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 Posted 04/08/2013  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1188howest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
not worth counterfeiting a 25$ coin.

The pictures lighting is deceiving and may only be at best VG.
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That coin is at least an F-12. Maybe even F-15.
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 Posted 04/08/2013  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1188howest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
- that coin is bullion if the market wasn't being supressed.






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 Posted 04/08/2013  01:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lambecolin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great coin--not fake.
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Regarding fakes-- I was going to collect the Chinese "Fatman " coin-- and read up on it for a couple of months--Got dvd's etc. There were so many varieties and good fakes it became more and more confusing.
I had to give it up after reading an expert who had written a book about the coin. He said after 50 years, he did not know everything about this one coin.
The Canadian Victorians are very safe to collect--very few fakes.
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 Posted 04/08/2013  03:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears real, also look at the "V: in Victoria, it's the RARE A/V variety. This would make the coin's value appr. $2,000.00.

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 Posted 04/08/2013  03:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1188howest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bid away glenzy,bid away.


Theft by deception.

A person commits theft if he obtains property of another by deception. A person deceives if he intentionally:

(1) Creates or reinforces a false impression, including false impressions as to law, value, intention, or other state of mind; but deception as to a person's intention to perform a promise shall not be inferred from the fact alone that he did not subsequently perform the promise; or

(2) Prevents another from acquiring information which would affect his judgment of a transaction; or

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Not a counterfeit.
Not an A/V.
No deception happening.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Thanks everyone for your comments. I just started collecting this year. It surprises me that there is so little written on individual coins other than on message boards. For example, has anyone ever written a comprehensive paper or book on Victorian Canadian quarters?
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For example, has anyone ever written a comprehensive paper or book on Victorian Canadian quarters?


Not in any great detail. For a reference, you could get your hands on a 62nd Edition Charlton Standard Catalogue (ISBN: 9780889683280), which has a variety section in the back on Victorian 25-cent coins.
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Thanks I'll check out that 62nd edition . Vic quarters are intriguing me. I am looking to first get all the dates (mostly done at low grades), then proceed to varieties and ultimately increase the overall grade of the collection.
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Here's a genuine fake Victoria 25c on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1870-/22121...em338145c2af
Have a look or save the pic for future reference before it's gone.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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not worth counterfeiting a 25$ coin.

I disagree, chinese now counterfeiting copper penny's and cent's, check it out: https://goccf.com/t/147374
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